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In Tokyo in the Meiji era there lived two prominent teachers of opposite characteristics. One, Unsho, an instructor in Shingon, kept Buddha's precepts scrupulously. He never drank intoxicants, nor did he eat after eleven o'clock in the morning.... continue...

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		Posted on Apr.10.2017 @ 06:21AM EDT by merseymale Hi My 1st post! I got involved with Bhudism many years ago with something called NKT but it was too involved for me & I got out as it were Now I am older I tealisr that I am a VERY indisciplined person & perhaps I should have 'stuck with it' -or with ANYthing! ;-) Then I discovered Alan Watts on YouTube & was very impressed but (usefully) without any idea why so when I found a well regarded Zen centre very close by I got involved straight away I found it difficult (surprise!! surprise!!) because there is SO much once incence, chanting, memorising, ritual, walking etc & when I commented on this I was told "well you wouldn't want to come out here just to sit still in a room full of strangers would you?" But THAT bit of the activities is the part I find useful I imagine that the others can manage meditation well enough at home but I cannot. I am a follower not a leader, alas & am better learner in a group setting So perhaps this post's title should read "is it necessary..?" Am I expecting too little of a religion? Am I just being distracted & ill disciplined? I can't bring myself to go back & do things when I prefer to 'do nothing' so to speak! Am I being lazy? ANY thought would be gratefully considered & Thank You in advance
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Reply from ---T e Apr.11.2017 08:10AM EDT →Email ---T e		Watch your shadows.
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Reply from Avisitor Apr.12.2017 08:21PM EDT →Email Avisitor		If you try to make yourself disciplined then you are forcing yourself to do things which are not what you want. The flow of life is wanting the things one has and to be happy with them So, you need to figure out what it is you really want and then follow your heart.
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Reply from Avisitor Jul.25.2022 11:51PM EDT →Email Avisitor		To be expected? I love the time spent together learning the truth of the self while in the midst of people all sitting around together. The days run together and change seems slow or not at all. Expectation seems to make it take all the more time. This too makes me wonder if I am right for this.
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Reply from so_teh Jul.26.2022 09:16PM EDT →Email so_teh		Understanding is painful only if you are nowhere to share it.
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Reply from Avisitor Jul.27.2022 05:34PM EDT →Email Avisitor		I feel no pain and I have no one to share this type of experience. Still there is a loneliness that there is no one here to add to the experience.
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Reply from so_teh Jul.28.2022 06:54PM EDT →Email so_teh		Language is everyone's burden. Use it but don't be used by it.
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Reply from Avisitor Jul.29.2022 12:57AM EDT →Email Avisitor		That is a tough one to do. Use language but do not be used by it. Considering that most thoughts are put in terms of language How does one not get used by it? To be able to conceive an idea, one uses thoughts or language
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