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vertical line Posted on Feb.24.2018 @ 12:18AM EDT by so_teh
It's important to get your sleep.
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Reply from so_teh
Feb.24.2018
12:44AM EDT 
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vertical line My family drinks every night.
I don't drink.
I don't recall what their presence was like.
See, I had this great idea of my family when I was young, and when we were a young family there wasn't drinking around.
It's unfortunate to miss their presence.
I still live with my family and were all in our thirties and late twenties.
Parents are divorced but can still deal with each other.
I have 3 brothers which I live with 2 currently.
My younger brother is in the Air Force.
They are all pretty heavy drinkers.
But get up for work in the morning.
We created a connection in our youth that has lasted.
I don't know why I can't seem to detach from my family and own my own home etc.
There is a connection there.
But it seems to only be a memory now because that connection was built on presence.
I wouldn't want to leave my family because I love them.
It's strange. I feel I'm not really going anywhere in my family but I assume I wouldn't want to be with any other people.
Of course we've made life long friends with a few others.
I wonder where I am going with my immediate family and if I will ever start my own.
None of my brothers have intentions to start families.
I wonder what I'm waiting for or if I am waiting for anything at all...

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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.24.2018
12:55AM EDT 
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vertical line no.Everything is for Zen.Let's say everything we do is for Zen.From our life plans to simple moves.What could you want from life? money? that's to sustain life.Health? that's either.Pleasure? All should be for zen and/or from zen.
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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.24.2018
01:25AM EDT 
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vertical line 'no' was for the sleeping.

My father and mother are old.They have come to the end.They can only live a few years more or so.But i made a plan.that i will make my self to understand that 'everything is for zen' mind in this few coming years while they are alive.because after they gone i will have to get the life's burden on my shoulders.and will have to deal with many daily stuff.i have no brother or sister.so, to start practising zen and be able to put it in every moment and so simply attain that mind while i've time is my priority.

and the rest is detail for me.
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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.24.2018
02:13AM EDT 
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vertical line sleeping is a devil-ary thing.in my last night dream i was in devil-ary affairs.i mostly live my dreams in a short period in real daily life.i've had many times that i set up my life on my dreams.
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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.24.2018
04:34AM EDT 
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vertical line Think with a calm mind on drinking.Drinking only get your mind and attention out of order or usage whatever.That's what exactly the opposite of what we're trying to achieve in a buddhist perspective.I were a heavy drinker too for more than 10 years.When you are young it is easy to get affected by the drunk zen masters movies especially.But since i made beer of my number 1 enemy, it comes just a childish thing to me to drink.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.24.2018
06:35AM EDT 
vertical line I'll drink to that. Families, eh? I was recently reuinted with a sister I haven's seen or spoken to in 16 years - another sister I haven't seen for 10 because of some stuff that happened a long time ago, some perceived slight or other. Skol.

But I won't drink to that - everything is for zen? A statement like that has only meaning for the hard bitten zenoholic who spends years talking and talking about how they are going to one day wake up, get enough sleep, exercise, eat well and try to practice sitting zazen but first they need to get everything else in order for zen. But what they really do is engage in a vocabulary building exercise which becoms the dominant paradigm. They gravitate to an internet forum or three, where every post is like a prayer offered up to the internet gods who just file it in the spam folder and forget about it - all that whingeing and whining is not a good look.

So look here you two, you can see the whole world in a glass of wine, or not, whatever.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.24.2018
06:54AM EDT 
vertical line Bringin it back to where it's comin from
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Reply from so_teh
Feb.24.2018
10:59AM EDT 
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vertical line So, here's the concept I've been working on...

It's called Insight Stand.

Like any book stand is based on insight.

I'm working on offering a little bit of coaching for anybody interest in learning the perspective of enlightenment.

Go to insightstand.com

Of course you guys help me out by clicking the book link and going over to Amazon and buying a toothbrush. I don't think it matters as long as I refer you over to Amazon through my link and you check out.

Just like here on Zenguide.com if you buy anything from their links they get a commission.

My purpose is I'm trying to point people in the right direction. And be someone who can assist and communicate enlightened perspective to a wider audience.

It's a genuine offer but is the market looking for genuine help? I don't know. That's the trick.

Insightstand.com






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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.24.2018
11:25AM EDT 
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vertical line ./\.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.24.2018
11:28AM EDT 
vertical line It's difficult to control something you can't control. Far easier and RIGHT to trim beards and troll trolls.
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Feb.24.2018
12:02PM EDT 
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vertical line actually... Insightstand.com/meditation
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.24.2018
12:46PM EDT 
vertical line Is your marketing strategy genuine too?
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Reply from so_teh
Feb.24.2018
11:20PM EDT 
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vertical line Who knows.

Honestly, I try to understand marketing but I don't know.





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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.25.2018
03:50AM EDT 
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vertical line i need to calm down.
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Reply from Enver m.
Feb.25.2018
04:17AM EDT 
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vertical line What is zen mind, what is zazen mind?

just pondering on this, and trying to understand..right now.

First i need to understand this.

rest is easy.


supporting ideas would be appreciated.
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Feb.25.2018
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