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vertical line Posted on Aug.12.2018 @ 02:39PM EDT by so_teh
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.12.2018
03:44PM EDT 
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vertical line So_ you are a good friend of mine.What are you avoiding yourself from? I need to hear more wordly lectures.You were different in the early days.That you were about to talk more and i always learn from your knowledge.Do you think i'm a fixed minded? I feel alone.My only connection with Zen is this forum.I don't have even a sangha.There is only zazen i do that has been remain to me. And I don't want to talk with 'an empty (wisdom or knowledge) mind' with myself around.Pls do speak more.

Please don't hesitate to talk more.

Don't you read books?

And so don't hide yourself.

I feel myself like an empty tin box.

I love the intuitive mind if fed with wise words.


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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.12.2018
05:33PM EDT 
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vertical line Manus Baba
Dönersen Islik Çal
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=suASnpsPgz8
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Reply from so_teh
Aug.13.2018
12:53PM EDT 
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vertical line Words die for me at times. They can come as insight at other times.

Don't feel like this.

I don't attach to words.
I don't know what said that inspired you yesterday.

Today, like right now, is just a moment that I spoke. Take the value right now. Don't dwell on the past.
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.13.2018
02:00PM EDT 
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vertical line Seems..I still have a monkey mind.which i live in between the koans and shikantaza.still living in madness in the chaos of my mind.
I know there is only one way exit and that is return to practice!
I had began zazen seems not enough helpful when it comes to limited for two weeks.

eh.?eh
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.13.2018
02:07PM EDT 
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vertical line By the way i have noticed that you have already give the answer.I didn't have read your reply before posting.

thanks.
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.13.2018
02:10PM EDT 
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vertical line Peace is every step we take
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.13.2018
02:21PM EDT 
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know anything
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Reply from Phil Space
Aug.18.2018
06:57AM EDT 
vertical line What I don't know, I can deduce.
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Reply from Phil Space
Aug.20.2018
05:38PM EDT 
vertical line Art [We know ourselves]
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.23.2018
05:15AM EDT 
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vertical line The birds have vanished down the sky.
And now the last cloud drains away.
We sit together, the mountain and me,
until only the mountain remains.

Li Po





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Li Po - J.P. Seaton
Li Po is the god of poetry. He called himself only the god of wine, and refused on the grounds of his superiority to answer a call from his Emperor. His poetry shows us, almost always, a person who is outside the world we live in, looking even farther outward at things we can’t even imagine. He dances with the moon and his shadow, making a three that’s not a crowd. He meditates upon a mountain (p. 90) until he and the mountain are one. And yet he is the absolute master of the description of human intimacy. It seems almost impossible that the delicate picture of a young love growing into maturity in “The Ballad of Ch’ang-kan” should have been written by a swashbuckling drunkard, and no less that that poet should also be in communication with Ch’u Yuan and his Fisherman. It’s more understandable to discover in “Drinking with a Hermit Friend in the Mountains” that in a single excellent, immortal quatrain this man has repeated himself three times in a single line, and then stolen a line from a history book he’s just been reading (or has memorized) almost word for word! There is, after all, the saying that all poets borrow, great poets steal.

Li Po - David HintonDuring
China’s T’ang Dynasty, a man named Li Po is born in the year 701, at the beginning of the great cultural flowering known as the High T’ang. He wanders. The moon beckons from his homeland, dances with his shadow. The river flows on the borders of heaven. He meets Tu Fu in a country wineshop, and they share a few days. Armies burn fields and cities. The T’ang smolders, a fitful ruin. In 762, Li Po’s wandering ends south of the Yangtze River, at someone else’s house, when he falls into a river and drowns trying to embrace the moon. The phenomenon of Li Po moves perpetually beyond the everyday facts which make up a life. He belongs at once to the realm of immortals and to the earth’s process of change, its spontaneous movement beyond itself. But his most enduring work remains grounded in the everyday experience we all share. He wrote 1200 years ago, half a world away, but in his poems we see our world trans-formed by winds of the immortals, bones of the Tao.
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Reply from Phil Space
Aug.23.2018
10:04AM EDT 
vertical line Before I Go
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Reply from Phil Space
Aug.23.2018
12:41PM EDT 
vertical line The Space between the knower and the known is the pinnacle of an inverted hill which one descends in order to reach the peak.?
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Reply from Enver m.
Aug.24.2018
03:42AM EDT 
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vertical line Actually, every question's answer is same in Zen.Don't ask alot of questions.
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Reply from Phil Space
Aug.24.2018
05:36AM EDT 
vertical line Actually is a buggy bug bug.
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Reply from Phil Space
Sep.24.2018
06:29AM EDT 
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Here I go.
See you around All
the best.
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Reply from Enver m.
Sep.24.2018
07:01AM EDT 
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Reply from so_teh
Sep.24.2018
10:25AM EDT 
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vertical line Your love is perfect.
Your mind is imperfect.
Watch your mind.
Follow your love.
Meditate like this.

Best
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Reply from Phil Space
May.09.2019
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vertical line Man in space
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Reply from Bobwidget
May.09.2019
10:12AM EDT 
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vertical line Just totally relax the focused energy in your head. This is all we have to do. Nothing else needed.
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Reply from Phil Space
May.09.2019
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vertical line You need parental controls.
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Reply from so_teh
May.09.2019
07:06PM EDT 
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vertical line Once a lost cause always a lost cause.
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May.10.2019
12:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Aware body don't try at all.
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Reply from Bobwidget
May.10.2019
05:31PM EDT 
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vertical line The knower is the aware being.

That which is automatically aware of reality is me. The knower. So the knower is hardly an idiot using awareness.
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Reply from so_teh
May.10.2019
07:01PM EDT 
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vertical line No Bob's allowed.
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May.11.2019
10:35AM EDT 
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vertical line Being aware is automatic and nothing to do. One must totally relax the nervous attention is all.
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Reply from so_teh
May.11.2019
11:19AM EDT 
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vertical line May you find the humor of Zen again.

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May.11.2019
12:07PM EDT 
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vertical line Let the body that is aware of reality totally relax.
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