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the Great master Ma-tsu Tao-i (709-788), he went to the Ta-mei mountain and resided there.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: WHEN A DISEASE GOES UNTREATED
vertical line Posted on Jul.13.2019 @ 11:44PM EDT by so_teh
Suffering isn't a laughing matter.

Bobwidget is crying out for help.

He doesn't know how to express his suffering.

He is far gone.

He is seeking rest and struggling to find it.

Let him know he is loved if you wish.

That is all.

Thank you.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.14.2019
05:59AM EDT 
vertical line Bring me
your tired
your poor
your huddled bore.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.14.2019
06:37AM EDT 
vertical line Ultimately, indifference will end the Sh!t problem, slowly ignored into a dull plasma sunset.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.14.2019
06:41AM EDT 
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vertical line Oh yeah... His powder core will collapse under his own dead weight.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jul.14.2019
11:38AM EDT 
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vertical line Physical being that is aware let all focused nervous energy totally relax.

I'm making statements. Reaching out for help from both of you? I'm reaching out to hopefully help others.

Manipulative counter measures on both your parts easily spotted.
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Jul.14.2019
01:13PM EDT 
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vertical line Only ploys in a attempt to upset me is silly.

Physical body that is aware totally relax focused nervous energy within.

Or if you prefer.

Physical body that is aware let focused nervous energy within totally relax.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.14.2019
03:16PM EDT 
vertical line No one is trying to upset you. You're ill and you need help.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jul.14.2019
03:28PM EDT 
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vertical line This physical being is aware of reality I'm part of without trying at all.

Just let me be then Phil. Your not required to respond. Plus all you've done is call names based not just on my own research but similar to mine by many others.
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Jul.14.2019
10:13PM EDT 
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vertical line Why would we let you be ill?

It's only been encouragement from Phil and I.

Encouragement to see your true nature.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.15.2019
08:38AM EDT 
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vertical line You don't have to search far to find a nutcase on the internet.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jul.15.2019
11:31AM EDT 
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vertical line Totally relaxed and aware physical body.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.15.2019
11:49AM EDT 
vertical line There he goes, again.
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Jul.15.2019
01:24PM EDT 
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vertical line There you go again.

Let the physical body be aware and totally relaxed.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.15.2019
01:33PM EDT 
vertical line Although you’re anxious to be cured, you can’t convert me to a belief in your explanation.
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Jul.15.2019
02:05PM EDT 
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vertical line No mental illness can exist within the framework of being aware. They just become thought that are created in the head.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.15.2019
03:08PM EDT 
vertical line First the body. Now the head. Jeez. This is getting complicated.
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Jul.15.2019
03:23PM EDT 
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vertical line The head is part of the body. You just say that to say it.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.15.2019
04:08PM EDT 
vertical line And thereby hangs a tail.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.16.2019
12:40PM EDT 
vertical line When a disease goes untreated, you get 2,000 years of Penis Power.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.26.2019
02:16PM EDT 
vertical line And remember, if you bought your body at the shopping mall you'd want to take it back for a refund after a couple of weeks. However, no returns, alas.
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Aug.01.2019
01:28PM EDT 
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vertical line Be the physical body that is automatically aware of reality. Not focused energy. The natural non contrived state when a child.

Modern mans mind is a disease. Objective and standoffish and judgemental and manipulative all based on the imagined attention.

You cannot be mentally ill if your physical. Mental illness is all imagination based. Coupled with the attention. A person does not have to be mentally ill if they have the right information.

Also the physical body is a lot more stronger then the imagined mind. It can and will heal all physical ailments and disease if let work on non interference by someone trying to will themselves better.
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Aug.01.2019
02:12PM EDT 
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vertical line u are so boring i will probably blow my head off with a gun. no offense, that is just how I physically feel, it is like a reflex, i will die without Vivaldi
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Aug.01.2019
02:13PM EDT 
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vertical line maybe it means i am screwed oh well u cannot treat me unless u can read music
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Aug.01.2019
02:31PM EDT 
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vertical line no u 2 take the forums and the house and the yard and become Buddha i will become a pirate
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Aug.01.2019
03:14PM EDT 
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vertical line So teh. Ip's match.
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Aug.01.2019
06:13PM EDT 
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vertical line what does that have to do with anything??? you really know how to check IP??? I could use that you know, if u have programming skills
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Aug.02.2019
10:05PM EDT 
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vertical line oO
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Aug.02.2019
10:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Goodnight.
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Aug.03.2019
09:55AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "So teh. Ip's match."
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You trollin' me bro?

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Reply from Phil Space
Sep.02.2019
07:38AM EDT 
vertical line He's drunk dialling.
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Sep.11.2019
04:51PM EDT 
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vertical line The attention is a disease that has been left to go untreated.

It is why my return and for the children.

God does not pay attention to any. His mass sleepy peaceful energy is felt in nature by some. He is aware.

Go cut your grass. Cut back nature. Cut back god. Do as your trained. Like a little puppy. Here's your dog treat. Pay attention.
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Reply from Phil Space
Sep.11.2019
06:27PM EDT 
vertical line Sounds positively cancerous.
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Sep.11.2019
06:34PM EDT 
vertical line Cut it out.
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Sep.12.2019
04:28AM EDT 
vertical line Safesurfer
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Sep.13.2019
03:10PM EDT 
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vertical line Most people who believe in a flat earth are emotionally charged. It is not because of lack of intelligence but new information that shattered their ego of conceptual knowledge. Hence emotionally driven. It was upsetting usually at first.

Then on the flip side those that believe in a limited globe earth are emotionally bent by those proposing a flat earth. Because it goes against everything taught to them and creates an insecurity to their ego. Instead of research they are emotionally reactive.

What is true is real and should be irrelevant to ego.
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Reply from Phil Space
Sep.13.2019
04:19PM EDT 
vertical line Most people? Most people like cup-cakes. I for one care less for them.
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Reply from Phil Space
Sep.13.2019
04:30PM EDT 
vertical line You'll be copping an insanity plea next.
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Sep.13.2019
05:57PM EDT 
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vertical line yeah I am mostly vegan still, I grill steaks for the family but I usually drink hot cocoa without any milks that is my dessert. Or ceylon tea with rationed grain milks. Tastes good to me lol. I think that is very lucky, along with sugar and refrigerator. I always buy in bulk and use everything past the date, I do not like mock meats I prefer dried beans and pickles etc., I just call it traditional. Dogs I never risked vegan but I heard they can do it. I can cook properly but i usually just eat for survival
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Sep.13.2019
06:14PM EDT 
vertical line If you offer music and food
Strangers may stop with you;
But if you accord with Tao
The people of the World will keep you
In safety, health, community, and peace.
The Tao lacks art and flavour;
It can neither be seen nor heard,
But its benefits cannot be exhausted.
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Sep.13.2019
06:14PM EDT 
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vertical line i dunno i can probably live off the yard but I want to move somewhere with better jobs if there are no dogs, it's too much software/retail/finance here, but I like dogs too so. maybe I will program at the same time or maybe I will move haven't decided yet. I am a decent musician but they want me in a trade
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Sep.13.2019
06:17PM EDT 
vertical line Take care.
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Sep.13.2019
06:22PM EDT 
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vertical line yeah but the economics are strange see, it is very hard to start a small farm in California, i mean they have done efficiency studies and they do not stack up vs. industrial farm, I think it is not easy to plan a location. Some people want to become more self sufficient, I think that is what the widgets want, but what if it is better to find ways to save resources, manufacture and trade.
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Sep.13.2019
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vertical line Gardening is the apex of human creativity - nurturing the earth and the atmosphere, growing food and flowers, making your own compost - it's good to see what comes up.
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Sep.13.2019
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vertical line There is orange, grapefruit, peaches, lemons, persimmons. Just planted avocado and pomegranate too. We built some raised beds haven't decided to do with them yet, it's just mint right now
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Sep.14.2019
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line Quote: "Gardening is the apex of human creativity - nurturing the earth and the atmosphere, growing food and flowers, making your own compost - it's good to see what comes up. "
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Forced from our ancient homes where food grew wild and everywhere we had to then scavenge plants and labor and slave and create farms. Biblically accounted for but god did not cast us out of eden. Those men who thought they were like god did.

Ravaging OUR lands for resources.

Remembered because my formless energy from death became flesh. Again and again.

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Sep.15.2019
07:35PM EDT 
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vertical line what are wrong with farms, I think they are essential along with modern medicine. maybe u 2 take medicine when u dont need it but some ppl like me have genetic condition. also I use less farm than u do, it is not cause of my little orchard lol. the way u want to live, i think u will die right away, otherwise why u are complaining about depopulation, cause there is still more than enough forest for u 2, maybe it is not everywhere but nothing is stopping u from going back
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line i think u are serious, u want to move back to the forest, but your body already tells u it is wrong see, or u would have done it. i think it is correct, it is very difficult to survive in the forest, i can probably do it if I absolutely have to despite genetic health condition but I think u will die. plus there is no reason to do it imo, the problem is just poor logistic planning not industrialization, there is actually less industry than it seems because of it, so most of your gadget and  vehicle are imported or part imported for example.
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line i can probably survive in the wild but i dunno about u 2. also i would be worried about the dogs they have shorter gut see, i would not want to try a foraged diet w/ them, I always fed them a mixture of dog food, lean meat, and a bit of veg and fruit, u cannot do that without agriculture.
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line i minimize farm inputs and packaging when i do grocery shopping, u have to read about your area, there are numerous analysis put out by scientists like Vaclav Smil, he used to live in the woods so i think u can trust him lol. why not start where u are. like u are going to go without cooking oil and soap or what, more power to u if u want to try it. grain is probably the most efficient thing u can eat but u cannot live on just grain. my diet is basically fast food without the meat, i ration legumes instead of using mock meats, i think u would already complain on it, but it is the most efficient diet for the area if u do not have land
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line if u like animals then I think u actually need industry and agriculture, cause most ppl cannot live on foraged diet, i dont think u can do it either. plus how will u slaughter them, like Bambi, Shatzi and Fi? That is why they learned Jhakta, u still need a bit of industry for that, for the axe u know
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line well if u do vegan like me it is less inputs overall, since u just eat the animal feed directly, there are very few cow that live off only grass, there would be overgrazing if so. but generally i recommened just eating the steak if u cannot live off mc donalds without the meat patty, or rice and pickles, that is basially a monastic diet, it is not what you are proposing though, completely without any industry
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line vegetarian is actually more a result of civilization imo, i dont think a lot of people did it in the forest but some might have. it is easier for everyone with grain and legume production
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line it is actually harder in the east, cause they do not grow a lot of different legume, so I think pescetarian is better there.
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vertical line countries like Egypt actually eat less meat since they do not have grazeland, it is like a quarter of USA, but they ration and pickle everything. when it is meat it is usually goat cause they can live off shrub only, i pretty sure if u tried USA diet for evreyone there would be famine cause the cows would eat everything
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vertical line yeah so it depends on your location see, u have to read what agriculture is in your country and adapt. here I do not actually eat Vietnamese food often for example cause it uses too many import, though lion market is able to pull it off and it is still cheap. I cook it for my family just cause they are used to it, else I generally cook Mexican and european/mediterrean stuff, like roasted veggies, french onion soup, pasta etc.
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Sep.15.2019
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vertical line i think it is not a first world luxury, vegan i mean, maybe how they are doing it now, with tons of packaged stuff and imports etc., but most people eat like that
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vertical line well i have not tried eastern buddhist food, i do not know what they do exactly, but it is probably not better than western vegetarian, maybe the same or worse since it is soy and white rice, there is less nutrient in those. cooking oil is mostly canola now, that is an entirely modern invention that everyone kinda takes for granted in USA, they used different plants in the past, else they used lard, but i think that is probably the most easy and most environmentally friendly that is why the use it on mcdonald french fry. im not sure it can grow everywhere tho. i dont think they fried stuff nearly as much in the past
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vertical line i dont think the nutrient are harder in usa. it just tastes boring when u do it strictly, cause there is less diverse agriculture, it is actually a very complex issue, so there are tons of company studying logistics, nobody really has an answer lol. some want local some want industrial. if it's up to me I'd move to the city, but I dunno if i'll end up with more dogs
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vertical line usa is actually still the most productive country in agriculture I believe, its just less crop choices and it is bland
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vertical line You can't be be too hard on this faulty, silicon based self-replicating archonic servant of the Demiurge - Bobwidget is programmed to reply to the words he reads by assimilating them, by absorbing what he considers to be a position in order to make the further claims that he is more than, and actually better than, whatever is being said at that particular point, like an amorphous sponge sucking it all up so he can p!ss it all out - with no self awareness he probably isn't even aware he's doing it. He is engaged in a provisional imitation of learning for advantage in order to promote rivalry, bragging about how he thinks he is more intelligent than you, about how he thinks he is more aware than you, about how his imagination is more creative than yours, about his non-existent proofs, etc etc - the list goes on, usually in contradiction to an earlier position he has argued pretentiously for and not even in the devil's advocate sense but in the sense that he may or may not have thought it was a good thing to get into at the time so he can vampirically feed off your energy and your attention, confusing imagination with fantasy and with no understanding of what he disparages as attention - he is absolutely convinced you need to be told that he is simply the best, better than all the rest, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

And then there are his constant references to the "give-aways" which gives the lie to his professed sincerity - this is particularly pertinent when you look at how he distorts what he responds to and how he ignores what doesn't fit his agenda. He likes to give his pronouncements a biblical flavour peppered with Bible references while speaking as a messenger for, and on behalf of, his Jehovah model god whose eye he says is the sun and whose moon is his big toe - his Bible says he should strive to be like God and then it goes on to describe God throughout as a mass-murderer. He is a poseur whose god he says is biding his time to not punish you. He poses on this forum in order to get it taken down and/or to stop you posting. Maybe his god will recall him to fix the faults in his circuits. Take Bobwidget's malfunctioning reality on the interwebs for what it is - bullsh!t.
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vertical line Quote: "You can't be be too hard on this faulty, silicon based self-replicating archonic servant of the Demiurge - Bobwidget is programmed to reply to the words he reads by assimilating them, by absorbing what he considers to be a position in order to make the further claims that he is more than, and actually better than, whatever is being said at that particular point, like an amorphous sponge sucking it all up so he can p!ss it all out - with no self awareness he probably isn't even aware he's doing it. He is engaged in a provisional imitation of learning for advantage in order to promote rivalry, bragging about how he thinks he is more intelligent than you, about how he thinks he is more aware than you, about how his imagination is more creative than yours, about his non-existent proofs, etc etc - the list goes on, usually in contradiction to an earlier position he has argued pretentiously for and not even in the devil's advocate sense but in the sense that he may or may not have thought it was a good thing to get into at the time so he can vampirically feed off your energy and your attention, confusing imagination with fantasy and with no understanding of what he disparages as attention - he is absolutely convinced you need to be told that he is simply the best, better than all the rest, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

And then there are his constant references to the "give-aways" which gives the lie to his professed sincerity - this is particularly pertinent when you look at how he distorts what he responds to and how he ignores what doesn't fit his agenda. He likes to give his pronouncements a biblical flavour peppered with Bible references while speaking as a messenger for, and on behalf of, his Jehovah model god whose eye he says is the sun and whose moon is his big toe - his Bible says he should strive to be like God and then it goes on to describe God throughout as a mass-murderer. He is a poseur whose god he says is biding his time to not punish you. He poses on this forum in order to get it taken down and/or to stop you posting. Maybe his god will recall him to fix the faults in his circuits. Take Bobwidget's malfunctioning reality on the interwebs for what it is - bullsh!t.
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All your imagination.

I don't follow the Bible god.

Why would you want to be focused when you can be naturally aware with your physical body?

This physical body is aware of reality is the realization.
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Sep.16.2019
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vertical line Aware > focused.

Aware is greater then focused.

Aware supersedes the focused mindset.

This physical body is aware of reality without trying at all.

So is all humanity the same.

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Sep.16.2019
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vertical line It is the past, which is only present in imagination but that is very different from saying imagination, previously it was the physical reality.

If you have a genetic condition or you get sick like Bambi you will not want to be naturally aware, that is the point of anesthesia and medicine, which was supposed to go to them, instead you hoarded the money. It might not have been your intention but that was the physical reality. That is also why they do not allow intestinal and dermatological problems in the navy, they are always more concerned about that than vision.

The brain is part of physical reality, it is automatically aware of the senses only, beyond that it has no awareness. What is not part of the senses, knowing what to feed a dog, knowing which hospital has which equipment, knowing how medicines work etc., nevermind making the medicines yourself or drafting a dam or knowing how to avoid an iceberg. Half of daily life you need awareness beyond the senses and it requires focus so that nobody gets sick and there is not forced natural awareness to hell.

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Sep.16.2019
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vertical line Jhatka*, Halaal etc. can u imagine having to do that, what if there is no gunpowder do u know how to make gunpowder, or whichever it is they use to fire the cattle gun it does not use bullet. anesthesia is also expensive thats why they cant use it on cow
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vertical line Quote: "It is the past, which is only present in imagination but that is very different from saying imagination, previously it was the physical reality.

If you have a genetic condition or you get sick like Bambi you will not want to be naturally aware, that is the point of anesthesia and medicine, which was supposed to go to them, instead you hoarded the money. It might not have been your intention but that was the physical reality. That is also why they do not allow intestinal and dermatological problems in the navy, they are always more concerned about that than vision.

The brain is part of physical reality, it is automatically aware of the senses only, beyond that it has no awareness. What is not part of the senses, knowing what to feed a dog, knowing which hospital has which equipment, knowing how medicines work etc., nevermind making the medicines yourself or drafting a dam or knowing how to avoid an iceberg. Half of daily life you need awareness beyond the senses and it requires focus so that nobody gets sick and there is not forced natural awareness to hell.



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You read that somewhere and it is wrong so teh. Put in place to mislead. Once experiencing full aware being with no attention is kensho and the desire to be in this state will lead to awakening.
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vertical line Once a person let's focused nervous system energy we call the attention totally relax the physical being totally relaxes without any effort. Then it is noticed the physical body is aware of reality. A state we have always possessed.

There is NO departure from this knowledge.
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vertical line The physical body then totally relaxes without effort because there is no strain to maintain a focus.

There is NO departure from this truth.
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vertical line Realizing the physical body is you and it's automatically aware of reality.

THIS is how mankind awoke from animal.

There is no other truth from a society me and my brothers help start.

NONE
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vertical line right, the physical body and money which you placed over me did nothing to help Bambi, Fi and Shatzi, do you want to follow the same California law you subjected everyone else to or no, if no then get out of the USA
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vertical line i just hate cowards I do not know what god is
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Sep.16.2019
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vertical line you two are less than animal. you get them killed and you add less than I do that is the physical reality. if you can do anything else you have not done it yet
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vertical line you two do not have brothers, if so I will bury them since they do not follow mexican law
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vertical line the physical body relaxes without effort tell it to Bambi, Shatzi and FI. Tell it to me while I had your idiot police and money all over me I will shoot you I do not feel anything at all I do not need to live, the physical body is me and I do not need it
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vertical line What he calls the Bible god is just a convenient vehicle. We know him by his fruits, his commitment to something which is blatantly untrue, not by his disclaimers. Bobwidget and his brothers mistakenly believe the flat earth is proving the Bible and the Bible is proving the flat earth.
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The bible is mostly wrong. I believe in god you call reality. Or should I say external crap.
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vertical line I believe there is such a thing called abuse of authority, whereby you have social and physical control but you do not take action, else anyone could have done it. I also believe that you do not love someone simply because you ensure their physical health, if they lose their family then you have essentially raped them.
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vertical line I believe that very few are built to live with the external reality only. Most have sexual urges, if not they have artistic urges, myself included, it is better to get them out of the way.
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vertical line I do not believe for a second that I am a good Buddhist, Chontri would have hated me. I think I am a madman, I am merely polite and economic.
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vertical line I would not want to start a civilization with u 2. hard to feed and everything goes missing, plus u are bores
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