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  Posted on Jul.28.2009 @ 07:08PM EDT by chontri

Every created thing is like
A dream, an illusion, a bubble,
A dewdrop, a flash of lightning.
View all created things like this.

The Diamond Sutra
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: THE DAY OF THE HUNGRY GHOSTS
vertical line Posted on Jul.28.2019 @ 10:51PM EDT by so_teh
We live today in a time of the hungry ghosts. It's different than the wartorn times of the world. It's quite different. We are starving.
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Jul.29.2019
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vertical line The Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown)
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Jul.30.2019
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vertical line I got 99 problems and being trapped in a decaying body in a money hungry society on a dying planet in a mysterious dimension may be one.
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line No. It started 10,000 years ago with our aware race being indoctrinated in the attention dogma.

The physical body is automatically aware of reality. Let it totally relax the attention so it releases.

Does anyone disagree that body is automatically aware of reality without and effort?
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line I obviously disagree with you, but it's not your posts, I don't even know what they mean.
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line You dont understand your physical body is automatically aware of reality around it?

Do you need to pay attention to your food in order to taste it? Or do you automatically taste it?
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line I usually hold my breathe cause it tastes horrible
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line And the widget stinks too. A most disagreeable fellow.
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line In what regard Phil? Calling names and saying no is totally non specific.
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Jul.31.2019
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vertical line Phil....psst psst. The attention is just a imagined thought. Forget it. Psst psst. If it feels like focused energy that's your imagination creating and focusing nervous energy?

No or yes? Even though its in zen teachings.
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Aug.14.2019
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vertical line P!ss off.
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vertical line So zen teachings are wrong?
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vertical line Quote: "P!ss off."
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But why should I? Have I typed anything wrong?

That which is automatically aware of reality is you.

What is wrong with this statement?
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line Our physical structure and dna is more determined by being the energy of our spirit prior to it becoming flesh and living. Your physical being is a totally unique DNA structure. They say families inherit diseases down through the bloodline. Not true at all. Either a person in that family is going against the noosphere or a past relative did. So it punishes all. More population control and a excuse to make it seem like the real god has punished us.

Because we are physical spirits or spirit made flesh it is those who fear death and also cannot remember past lives because the narrow minded attention blocks it who have no faith in reality to always allow those who desire life to live again.

I existed as a slumbering spirit of vast relaxed formless energy for close to a 1000 years. Awakening slightly at times and creating new philosophy. I did not want to exist physically again. I enjoyed death. It was utterly peaceful. But this can be attained in this life by letting the physical body totally relax and it will once a person abandons the forced attention. But reality told me he is not a object. Still I barely stirred. Then I heard the cries of children. The only reason I came to exist again physically.

If it means going against any false institution or adults teaching the doctrine of attention to these children naturally aware of reality I will. To mar our children with our false ideals of reality is wrong.

We all have been wrong. Including me.
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vertical line Yeah, Hello? Uh, if you’re there pick up, okay listen it’s Alan calling, Alan from Earth. You probably don’t remember, it’s over in the western spiral of the Milky Way although obviously you might have named it after a completely different brand of chocolate. Basically just find the Oort Cloud and ask for directions from there. Anyway just calling to catch up. We’re doing alright with the carbon base lifeform thing. Kids are diversifying nicely, going through a bit of a fad for spines and brains at the minute but it’s probably the same where you are. Well, that’s about it really, we just hadn’t heard from you in a while, like when we killed Michael Rennie or Klaatu, as you knew him in The Day The Earth Stood Still. So if you received this, get in touch, but actually thinking about it, don’t bother calling after about, what, 2150, because I’m not expecting anyone to be in. Oh and I’m sending this song along it’s called God Song by Robert Wyatt. I hope you like it. And that you don’t communicate through perfume or minor variatrions in your sense of balance or something. Okay, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. Love you, Bye.
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line God Song/Fol De Rol
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line No one bought your plan 1 spiel. So, why would you think plan 2 is gonna fly?
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line Total abrupt physical change not resembling modern humans? Its already done. Only stress disallows completion. Not my fault per say. Those mad scientists who study the noosphere formerly called Mara is what stresses mankind.

Here's the thing. You imagine the sun as millions of miles away. When it is just right up there. Floating and moving and small and not that hot. This imagined reality is ego to see it as millions of miles away.

I was present when they shot our midnight sun we call the moon now with missiles. The sky did fall that day. Resulting in half a sun. Proven the very nature of the moon gives off heat. Our moon is generally bigger then our sun. Those giant super moons. The moon is closer. I've seen it a mere mile above the ground once.
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vertical line Phil equats nmarri poster on here. I fiqured either you or so teh. I knew from first post. Its your way of imagining your teaching me a lesson like I don't listen somehow. I don't need to listen. Others do. I'm not here to debate Phil. I'm like a rock. I type proclamations of truth and our real history. Zen was formulated on being strong against Mara. Realizing through either direct observation that mere imagination focuses on the breath or mushin which is non attention and being aware with body. Mushin meditation for the select few.

I know Siddhartha's methods. He was my friend. He does not want to return because of Mara. I was old man hotei. Yep. Makes total sense. He loved children too according to history.
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vertical line Yeah you're between a rock and a hard place.  You're a fvck up.
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vertical line Quote: "Yeah, Hello? Uh, if you’re there pick up, okay listen it’s Alan calling, Alan from Earth. You probably don’t remember, it’s over in the western spiral of the Milky Way although obviously you might have named it after a completely different brand of chocolate. Basically just find the Oort Cloud and ask for directions from there. Anyway just calling to catch up. We’re doing alright with the carbon base lifeform thing. Kids are diversifying nicely, going through a bit of a fad for spines and brains at the minute but it’s probably the same where you are. Well, that’s about it really, we just hadn’t heard from you in a while, like when we killed Michael Rennie or Klaatu, as you knew him in The Day The Earth Stood Still. So if you received this, get in touch, but actually thinking about it, don’t bother calling after about, what, 2150, because I’m not expecting anyone to be in. Oh and I’m sending this song along it’s called God Song by Robert Wyatt. I hope you like it. And that you don’t communicate through perfume or minor variatrions in your sense of balance or something. Okay, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. Love you, Bye."
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This type of gibberish talk they use in zen to of course. Its to lead the mind from mere words to direct observation of the non verbal reality. But you do not understand this. In the nonverbal reality no spirit is found. Just the physical essence. In the nonverbal reality the attention is witnessed as imagination. Focused imagination. So. You do NOT know.
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Pretending to not know. How coy. Well not really. You play little games with your imagination.

This physical being is absolute total proof and truth beyond words.
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vertical line You're on a debatable journey. You employ consequences in order to prove your assumptions and so deal in pseudocertainty - you assume that you will live another day.
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line No Mexican blood get off my property. Your words, not mine.
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line Well, your God's words, how many times do I have to go over this. You are on slave four and you are utterly illiterate.
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vertical line You could always just get off my property, I am urging you to do so because even if I allow myself to be inconsistent I have PTSD
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line Vague kid, then knife in eye, that is your words. Everyone is waiting, maybe u will make the news
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line Well I am just a whore but I have old people and kids. Last I heard your God sent your grandmother to the hospital and attacked his younger cousins, and you sent your friends to rehab for lack of attention
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line sent his grandmother*, though I suppose she is your inlaw, do you speak to her?
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Aug.15.2019
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vertical line I mean do you speak to anybody there? I haven't but I went to school with them I wonder how they are.
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vertical line well if you are going to back out on a duel then they'd have to make a request, but I dont think you 2 have kids or old people
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vertical line no but that's the thing, u are not a kid, you are what, 10 years older? Bambi really suffocated to death while you were having car sex, everyone else went to rehab and jail on your orders, for petty crimes. Besides you started the duel.
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vertical line It's not that I'm buddhist, it's that anyone is more buddhist than you two. Plus that is racist, I told you I converted, but you keep bringing up Buddhism
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vertical line I am not vague? I am really a gimp, I am disqualified twice on physical grounds by aviation departments. I think you are worse than Nazis you don't even fight
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vertical line also what happened to YOUR pets I wonder, with all the private doctors and drivers you had
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vertical line no i have their names stupids, your drivers, they wanted to play music, maybe I'll ask them
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vertical line I'm pretty sure you two have huge games collection in your household? i only have some game soundtracks I studied composition, without money obviously. They are very good btw, like Jeremy Soule, it's not kid stuff it's going in future textbooks, but it's not a noble profession so I don't do it much anymore
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vertical line yeah I know you want to take me I'm saying that you two creep me out, you have no plan, you are married but you both get jealous it's weird
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vertical line yeah my apologies for spamming btw but these two keep contacting me here for some reason, I miss Immortal1 and Shayne etc. they were great
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vertical line Do you mean I don't want to be Phil's lover is that it, how insulting!!!! of course I do. It's just not how life works. I love his work he is my hero, but I am stuck with you slobs
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or u are saying he is leading me on, we don't need to meet, get some damned class u 2, I can love him from afar

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vertical line All the conceptual baggage which gets carried, bandied about and smeared around here is completely redundant and irrelevant. We need to do better than the creator god and his butt slaves in the establishment.  Cos this is a war universe.  War all the time.  That is its nature. 
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I'm practicing this.
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You don't know anything.
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vertical line If you want to go to paradise
you have to pretend to be dead
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What is the quality of your dreaming?

Arise and get thrown out of paradise.
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What is the quality of your dreaming?



Arise and get thrown out of paradise.

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Practice combine the the real and the dream.
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Arise and get thrown out of paradise.

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Do you entertain the idea of being a mans girl? Just a curious question.

If not do you want me to show your gf proper sex using the body instead of the attention? I'll teach you how its done. So you can please her better.

If these questions spark over sensitivity in you I suggest testosterone shots.
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The internet is just a little brighter light on the subject.
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vertical line Time for a change then.

The attention is not only focused energy but focused stress we hold unto along with its limited intellect. This is why those very focused individuals are more stressed then others.

When the physical body let's the attention totally relax there is a higher pitched tone in the head as the energy disperses and expands. Then relief occurs as this stress is no longer in the body. The attention must be released.

The physical body is aware of reality automatically and is more then capable of being in touch with it.

The attention will at all costs resist this natural process in a mode to protect the ego identity.

Only those the have not had the realization the physical body is aware of reality do not know. A glimpse is kensho. Enlightenment is full release.

There is no if, ands or buts about this. Until you have a glimpse of true kensho or enlightenment the created attention is still looking for an answer.

This truth becomes apparent once the attention disperses. You will know. Your anger is justified. Your memory of past lives will not be forgot. You will know the physical body is a manifested form of energy of spirit. That it is while alive a physical spirit. Not immaterial and weak with ego of so called mind.

Trust in the physical body. It is you.
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vertical line Quote: "Really, there is not much that we are. And whatever that which we may be... it's hard to say. "
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Your looking and guessing. That's a insecure statement.

This physical body is not only aware of reality its automatic and totally no need to try.
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vertical line Bob, could you introduce yourself a bit?

What are you practicing
What section
Have any contact with tibetan buddhism
How old are you
Where are you living ..etc

Nice to meet with you!
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You're right. He has no friends.
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Literally no attention.

Who cannot notice the physical body is aware of reality and the attention is focused nervous energy?

You literally would have to lie to your self to deny this.
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Why would anyone want else?

The attention is more subjective then objective because its created in the head and is a viewpoint of reality. It is not reality.

Who would deny these truths?
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What are you practicing
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Nice to meet with you!
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Bobwidget, did you notice my post!
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