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One day Yao-shan Wei-yen (750-834), one of the well-known Chinese Ch'an master,
was asked by the host of the monastery to give his sermon to the assembly who
for a long while was expecting his teaching. Yao-shan said: "Strike the bell."

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		Posted on Sep.21.2019 @ 01:10PM EDT by Bobwidget You create your attention. Its simply just the physical body aware of thoughts you create. The attention is one of them. No created attention. On being aware it is totally easy to spot true literature from false. One is created with the attention and a view point the other devoid of it. Do you create your attention?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 02:44PM EDT →Email ndanmai		You two cost too much, that is all I pay attention to
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 02:47PM EDT →Email ndanmai		he is an uncle tom, or I should say nigger as he does. and u are a valley girl it is obnoxious.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 03:13PM EDT →Email ndanmai		in general I pay attention to animals, plants, and machines, people not so much. usually they ask me the same questions about attention and non attention etc but it is gibberish to me, I have to strain to understand what they are asking, I think it is also racist, since I am a Christian
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 03:22PM EDT →Email ndanmai		when you say attention and non attention I usually just think of music where you have to group information, so that there is non attention in the end, or muscle memory, else u do it note by note and it takes exponentially more attention.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.21.2019 06:02PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Hearing music is hard? Haha. Strange. Go pay attention to your food to taste it. You don't get the physical body is automatically aware of reality?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 08:35PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I just know I have 3 happy animals and yours were abused. And that you 2 have difficulty understanding what a strawman is.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 10:16PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well i'm sorry if that's boring but so far that's all you two have ever done, aside from bothering the ambulances and doctors. I would probably trade your dad's factory for one piece of avant garde, i think it is going to become a urinal anyways.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 10:26PM EDT →Email ndanmai		they are just repeating what Michio Kaku did in his basement. my tax money goes to it too, wouldnt buy it for free.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.21.2019 10:36PM EDT →Email ndanmai		ya i know u dont really have owners but maybe u should try getting adopted by him as you suggested. my budget is too tight
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.22.2019 12:15PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Let your created focused nervous system energy totally relax and the physical body will totally relax without effort. There is only a few choices. You either don't know what the attention is. Don't want to like a child to discover this. Or you serve the agenda that controls through manipulation of the attention.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 12:34PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Look I don't even know what that means other than that you want what little money I have saved up. I just know you don't have work in San Jose, you never have. I take care of dogs and old ppl, I did so my whole life. I never get to nap or I miss a dog turd or my grandpa does not get to the toilet. I run groceries myself and I cook my own meals. The only reason I can still do calculus and classical music is because I study at night while you two have orgies. I don't know if it's hard but I added value my whole life and you two have only tortured animals.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 12:38PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Why would I move in with you. If I moved in I would kick you out and do the same thing there, I would adopt a toy dog, I would take care of Daniel, I would attend SJSU and find work in one of the factories. It's the same thing, just here I garden instead.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.22.2019 12:58PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		All sentient life in our world universe started off one way and one way only. This attention comes from me. Who is me? Oh me is this body. This body is automatically aware of reality. I don't have to try. Awwwwhhhh. Attention totally relaxes. Release and relaxation. All sentient life. You must physically exist to be aware of reality naturally. Being spirit you slumber. Its never good to contact those dead. A spirit must strain to be aware. Hence disturbing its sleep. Its how it works.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 01:02PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well u obviously dont really like the mountains, cause u 2 just left someone there. if you want a small plot of land somewhere in the countryside then it costs way less than u think, a lot of it is free.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 01:04PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u 2 do not add value to San Jose that is all I am saying. u should always find ways to add value to where u are. if you want to be some sort of spiritual teacher then there are numerous sangha that are already better at it.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 01:09PM EDT →Email ndanmai		this is not a sangha, it is a senior center and animal shelter, I also keep up with school at night. So I am a layman. you two have criminal records and a history of kicking others out when they picked up food for your animals, it is already kind don't you think that they have not done the same to you. you were also the rich ones, so I would not even call it gentrification.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.22.2019 01:14PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		For 10,000 years the offspring of those with supposed dwarfism and giantism have suffered from their involvement in fighting back our invaders. Dwarfs of great strength and giants thirty feet tall DID exist. They have made it to be fantasy or biblically known. Of course the nepliem were bad and evil. They killed them and destroyed their machines. The false gods. Forgetting does not make this statement untrue. Giant skulls have been known to be discovered then quickly hidden away. We had supposed big dinosaurs. Why not big people? People with giantism uncursed living long would get super tall. They grow even up until death. A lot of whats written is true or marred and false. One cannot rely on just mere zen doctrine for truth.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 01:17PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u mean why are other sangha better, I dunno ask the ppl who go why they like it. I liked it because a lot of them could tutor languages, math, cooking, even computer science, so this forum is probably built by one of them, which u take for granted.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 05:45PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i already told you i'm going to be too busy to hang out with you. I have another 10 years left here, I do not get to miss a single chore. the dogs cannot feed themselves and my grandparents both have health issues. my grandfather cannot walk, my grandmother faints and cannot reach anything. the only time I go out is for groceries, otherwise I only have free time at night, that is when I try to keep up with school
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 05:46PM EDT →Email ndanmai		there is a lot of time in between where I can read stuff but I dont get to miss anything. it has always been that way, before my grandparents were infirm I had an even larger family to clean up after. the yard is mostly my work. I also had Bambi obviously who could not get down the deck herself.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 05:56PM EDT →Email ndanmai		ok so u have to cook and clean after 4 people, 2 of them are bedridden. you have to watch 2 dogs. you have to do all the groceries yourself and pick up medicine for them. you have to translate for them when the doctors call. do you want to do that, if so then I'll actually have time. i already forgot our past you are not family, u are acquaintances only. i will need a new job in 10 years or so when everyone is dead, that is all
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 06:06PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I don't get to taste my food moron, cause all the food in the fridge is theirs and the dogs. The dogs eat better than I do. I get paid in food stamps basically, which I save.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 06:11PM EDT →Email ndanmai		it is not really about the money. i work here because I like the dogs. when I say u 2 cost too much i dont mean money, i mean u literally costed brain cells when they got tortured, that is the result of your physical bodies
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Reply from so_teh Sep.22.2019 06:12PM EDT →Email so_teh		Bob, one can never "touch" anything. Nor one can never "think" anything. You're so confused about all of life Bob and it must be very tragic for you.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 06:14PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u do not understand the physical body is automatically aware else you would not have costed brain cells. u are not Tellez else you would not have strangled your family. retard gringos
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 06:48PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Daniel is one of their cousins he has severe autism, like he cannot dress himself, I doubt they do anything for him. I doubt they have adopted a cat like they say, I have two new dog even though I am heartbroken. They might have some kind of mental disability themselves. If I were there it'd just be the same thing, I'd change diapers, I'd have a dog or a cat, I'd find work in one of the numerous factory or lab there if there is no space for garden. they want some grander job or something but they don't even start where they are
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.22.2019 06:50PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I dont say they havent done hard things or they do not suffer or they cannot do something great they just have not helped anything yet, not even in a small way
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.22.2019 08:53PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Bob, one can never "touch" anything. Nor one can never "think" anything. You're so confused about all of life Bob and it must be very tragic for you." ......... Weirdo. If it seems weird it is.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.22.2019 09:26PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Bob, one can never "touch" anything. Nor one can never "think" anything. You're so confused about all of life Bob and it must be very tragic for you." ......... Don't post lies. That's a weirdo thought imagined. Only a idiot can't notice the body is automatically aware of reality. An idiot. Not even dumb. Someone obsessed with imagined ego. In fear to let it die.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.23.2019 05:11AM EDT		Bobwidget, you're an authoritarian despot, a biological robot indifferent to responsibility. Your body is part of your myth. It wil fail you eventually, inevitably. It's going to be painful and extremely disappointing for you.
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Reply from so_teh Sep.23.2019 12:39PM EDT →Email so_teh		Quote: "Quote: "Bob, one can never "touch" anything. Nor one can never "think" anything. You're so confused about all of life Bob and it must be very tragic for you." ......... Weirdo. If it seems weird it is." ......... Not weird. It's physics. Sorry Bob. You will not be touching anything here as long as you live. Same goes with thinking. Don't think you'll be thinking anytime soon either. Have a nice day.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.23.2019 01:23PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Most science is half wrong. Including a lot of physics. Only for the simple reason its a abstract concept as a reflection of real reality. Saying the bikku or whatever it is that passage is totally discredited on the basis of inward view. Again attention. So misleading and untrue. Anything that points to a conceptual reality or truth is an imagined thought process based on attention and a reflection of reality instead of direct awareness of reality. I have the knowledge of this mainly false doctrine and the ancient doctrine of awareness. The old ways trump and will trump this modern eras twisted logic. Let the physical body totally relax. Not try. And be aware of reality. Let the physical body be aware of reality and totally relax. I see only ego here. The imagined conceptual attention and thoughts that go with it.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.23.2019 01:39PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Bobwidget, you're an authoritarian despot, a biological robot indifferent to responsibility. Your body is part of your myth. It wil fail you eventually, inevitably. It's going to be painful and extremely disappointing for you. " ......... Responsible enough to attempt to save the world speaking realities non punishing statement? The body is aware. God is authority. I simply enforce it. Nothing wrong with this. At all. Let the physical body be aware of reality and totally relax focused nervous energy. Who would rather strain to be focused at reality rather then let themselves totally relax and be automatically aware of reality? What's wrong with being aware?
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.23.2019 01:56PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Bobwidget, you're an authoritarian despot, a biological robot indifferent to responsibility. Your body is part of your myth. It wil fail you eventually, inevitably. It's going to be painful and extremely disappointing for you. " ......... Your physical body is automatically aware of reality whether you like it or not. You cannot change this. Its how we were created. No strife. No trying. Let your physical body be aware of reality. My words will affect you anyway someday for they are gods reality you never will avoid. Cannot escape. A truth that may linger conceptually until its reality is sensed. I am no authority. God is. He has won before it started for its our base nature already present. Take it up with reality. I don't make the rules.
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Reply from so_teh Sep.23.2019 02:02PM EDT →Email so_teh		Why are you trying to tell me how things are when you're clearly in a state a confusion?
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.23.2019 03:13PM EDT		Bobwidget doesn't make the rules, Alan does. There is no reality. This is the beginning of gnosis.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.23.2019 04:00PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Why are you trying to tell me how things are when you're clearly in a state a confusion?" ......... Confusion is the attention wobbling between alternatives. It is insecure attention. Not my message.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.23.2019 04:03PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Bobwidget doesn't make the rules, Alan does. There is no reality. This is the beginning of gnosis. " ......... I don't make the rules. God does. Correct there is no reality because its god. People have just called god reality.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.23.2019 04:18PM EDT		I call your god Dumbo. Look out, he's behind you.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 04:38PM EDT →Email ndanmai		nobody calls your god reality. we all call him mara or nigger etc.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 04:40PM EDT →Email ndanmai		he does not represent anyone, if so send them. i think none of those people are worth a single dog, they are chicken hawks who have contributed less than notthing to USA and who survive on evreyone's taxes
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 04:47PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I am not anti communist see, I am anti maoist, that is basically what your god is, Stalin. they mystify labor and tax everyone, the only thing they give back are tortured family, they do not really produce anything.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 04:51PM EDT →Email ndanmai		you survive on my taxes. it goes to your schools, your doctors, your factory. I support farmers, gardeners, and agricultural engineers, not fools like you. you are not even soldiers, you cannot manage your rations, you run from battle. communists in modern asia are different. u have to go to Yulin Dog Meat Festival to meet your type they are not the same.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:01PM EDT →Email ndanmai		the whole company is worthless. I'm just guessing here but they are all on welfare and everyone pays for them. they dont own pets. they dont know how to repair their own facilities. they do not sell to USA companies. they do not pay taxes. etc.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:05PM EDT →Email ndanmai		they did not set it up. they do not know how to repair it. etc. they are like north vietnam basically, without the honor
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:08PM EDT →Email ndanmai		it's just a guess. he is so stupid that there cant possibly be anyone there that knows what they are doing
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:09PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i want them off everyone's taxes. if they are representing him in court then I am suing them for animal abuse and fraud
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:11PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I call your god Mara with Shatzi and Fi on his harpoon. he is also a cuckold and a chicken hawk.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:14PM EDT →Email ndanmai		sry, shatzi and bambi. Fi was yours somehow it did not live as long as a dog when you have ambulances and trucker
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:16PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well he is a god then why does he have to hide behind his boss, send either of them I do not care
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:20PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I probably know more about his damned company than his boss, it's just cause I passed high school physics. if there is anyone there who knows anything I bet they are draft dodgers.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:28PM EDT →Email ndanmai		the only USA they can possibly be selling to are Berkley student, it is for the particle accelerator. they are just repeating experiments mindlessly, michio kaku already did it in his basement, they are doing it on everyone's taxes. other than that it is for defense which they would never sign up for.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:43PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well he just said vacuum screw that's all u need to know. respirators and radiation therapy have been around forever so it's obviously not for that. it helps if you know high school physics. if they know what it is for they are probably just paying for their dogs see, but he is not like that. if i were president I would not invest in it in other words, I would just send them money directly for necessities and I would send the rest to other manufacturers.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 05:57PM EDT →Email ndanmai		the factory is probably inherited from the Vietnam War era but they do not have a direct lineage with the founder. high vacuum technology has been around for a long time, but most medical and industrial applications are not particularly high vacuum. there are some devices you can do medical research with but I think a better research team does more on more standard equipment. I bet they would quickly go under without subsidies in other words, the vast majority of their customer are probably defense and out of date universities. if they benefit anyone it is a few places overseas but they have their own manufacturers. most medical R&D and engineering blueprint are imported these days
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Reply from so_teh Sep.23.2019 06:58PM EDT →Email so_teh		Quote: "Quote: "Why are you trying to tell me how things are when you're clearly in a state a confusion?" ......... Confusion is the attention wobbling between alternatives. It is insecure attention. Not my message." ......... Why don't you tell us why you're really here Bob? I know you're suffering and looking for help but what is it that brings you here? Did a family member just pass away and you lost your way? Did your marriage or relationship brake down? We're you swindled by someone and now you're poor? What is it? There must be a cause to your new found delusion. I've been here at Zenguide since 2008. I know what genuine discussion looks like... What's your deal Bob?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 07:34PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I dunno it's more a human resources question imo, not just economic. But for the economic first look at a modern medical Linac then look at a Cyclotron, that is the difference in price, it is gigantic. Then you still need a huge team to callibrate the machine and plan the surgery see. I would take the skilled team with standard equipment, if you can have both then great but there are few instances where you get both. Most teams who know how to use the protons are probably not even in the USA though a few obviously exist, but what about the inheritors of the facilities? What if they are like his company and they dont even know how to fix one of the fuses
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 09:27PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I dunno I'd love to see their financial data, it'd be ironic if it's not even going to medical accelerators. I bet they are all as stupid as him else there are a couple of draft dodgers in there. You take out the subsidies and my animal shelter is worth more. His mom hired him btw.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.23.2019 10:19PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i dont need their bloody money moron. they are all above the law like you two or what, do I need to put them in jail for tax and draft evasion
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 09:48AM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Why are you trying to tell me how things are when you're clearly in a state a confusion?" ......... Confusion is the attention wobbling between alternatives. It is insecure attention. Not my message." ......... Why don't you tell us why you're really here Bob? I know you're suffering and looking for help but what is it that brings you here? Did a family member just pass away and you lost your way? Did your marriage or relationship brake down? We're you swindled by someone and now you're poor? What is it? There must be a cause to your new found delusion. I've been here at Zenguide since 2008. I know what genuine discussion looks like... What's your deal Bob? " ......... There is no discussion. Its statements of reality. I used to believe in the attention when others told me different. Kinda not weird both you and Phil discussed my supposed health getting worse. Not weird because its obvious of collaboration. What is wrong with being aware?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 10:31AM EDT →Email ndanmai		No they didn't say that. They said all things are impermanent. There nothing wrong with being aware, I think his company is not aware. In any case you are avoiding the topic, who do I go to court with. Or duel if he still wanted that. Your God? His company?
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 10:45AM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Reaching out for help for approval? No hardly that. I answer to no man. Only reality. I already know some won't approve. Even the majority of people. But more does not mean more are correct. Teaching gods message needs no approval for me. Not my message. The body is aware. The attention the teaching of the false God.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:03AM EDT →Email ndanmai		right I don't know if your god and his company are false I just know they've tortured my family and they are supposed to go to court, what they do after they can figure it out themselves
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:10AM EDT →Email ndanmai		how come your god is always overfocused and he needs a million other people to speak for him, according to you that is false behavior. but frankly I am more curious about his company at this point.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 11:15AM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Who said anything about my god. We all share the same one reality. You don't live in reality?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:18AM EDT →Email ndanmai		I don't think I'd work there but I'd manufacture stuff for industrial vacuum pumps instead he does not understand the difference. the efficacy of proton therapy has been mixed, some results have been better some have been worse, I think it is more the surgical team basically.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:19AM EDT →Email ndanmai		i think his company doesnt live in reality. only you talk about your god, and he talks about himself all the time.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:37AM EDT →Email ndanmai		It sounds like they think they are military material but they run from a duel so, I think they probably don't even know who they sell to or they are draft dodgers like I said.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:44AM EDT →Email ndanmai		we evidently do not share the same reality. my reality is Mexican law and Mexican blood, I am supposed to either go to court or attend a duel see, but I seem to be the only one who lives in it. I don't care what else they do, I don't even know their names or anything I just passed high school science and econ so,
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:50AM EDT →Email ndanmai		Well USA law and USA blood it is pretty much the same but dueling is not allowed in all states. It is their duel though, since you 2 do not want to do it. They do not respond. So evidently they do not live in their own reality see. Doesn't matter which reality really.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 11:52AM EDT →Email ndanmai		I'm going to laugh if it is actually just avant garde for Berkeley and military toys they will never even use, then they are draft dodgers/felons AND they are parasites on my taxes.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 11:57AM EDT →Email Bobwidget		The attention is the false gods method of operation. It is very precisely why I say NO attention. The noosphere.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 12:02PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I am kind of forced to pay attention cause he whines and his company are on my taxes. I mean do you want to stop him from whining and u want to get them off my taxes
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 12:04PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I live in Mexico and USA, that is my reality. you might call it false but you are going to have to deal with it
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 12:13PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I am also forced to follow the law see. it is not attention, it is because I am a citizen of a state, I mean even in China I think I would have to do the same thing
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 12:20PM EDT →Email ndanmai		it's their duel, I don't want to pay attention to it but you are going to have to get them to stop. you are not very aware or something
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 12:23PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I do not mind if a false god slays me so u dont really have to advise me
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 12:37PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		That light at the end of the tunnel with near death experiences and people coming back and talking of heaven. Well that's a machine allowing those to return so it can convey the false message of a heaven made rich with our resources. And our world is almost a grave. Another mars. Our race is very prone to weakness of imagination believing everything we are told. Not our fault per say. Now our race indoctrined is becoming like them and manipulative.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 12:55PM EDT →Email ndanmai		yeah I agree, I mean you have weird imagery and one can nitpick details but that is basically the reality lol
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 12:58PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: " I do not mind if a false god slays me so u dont really have to advise me" ......... Some experience in nature a calming effect. That's god. While those in contact with the noosphere such as Edgar cayce it afflicted him then eventually taken his life. While those coming close to a real vision can be and are afflicted with mental illness. Most of it psycho somatic suggestions which focused nervous system energy we inflict on ourselves. Saying or not caring of Edgar cayces the lady or the noosphere is a result of the noosphere. Worst part is its not mean per say. Its all about population control. We can't have people with dwarfism and giantism living naturally extremely long. To much of a past threat. Subduing our DNA. The true gods which are those unafflicted being like god. Aware. Fast. Strong. Robust health. Extreme long life. They cannot have this threat reemerge either. The false gods. Those conceptually minded thought us stupid. Idiotic. They imagined themselves like god and didn't know the true god we call reality. So I know the truth.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 01:07PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: " yeah I agree, I mean you have weird imagery and one can nitpick details but that is basically the reality lol" ......... Not weird imagery. Unhindered. This forum is small. Very little visitors. But enough for the trickle down effect. One affecting another and that one affecting a different one.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 01:15PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Letting your focused nervous system energy totally relax is the only way to be " free ".
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 01:49PM EDT →Email ndanmai		yeah but when I am relaxed you two are not. It is weird because you think a stroke is not an ideal way to die, it kinda is unless u wake up from it and die from more complications
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 01:59PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well even gunshot is pretty good imo
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 02:01PM EDT →Email ndanmai		so what you two say is weird to me, you think those are strange but I don't. those are all better than hemlock.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 02:09PM EDT →Email ndanmai		you two are incapable of relaxing me, I am sorry, i think that is what you want. but it is my previous practice and mexican blood that is why, others do it fine.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 02:14PM EDT →Email ndanmai		practice w/ your dad first, get him to screw his mother, then try it
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 03:27PM EDT →Email ndanmai		look it's not just me, I have cousins who are getting into pharmaceuticals and engineering, they would gentrify you 2 the first chance they get, it is not really gentrification because we pay your taxes and our budget our lower see. they also take care of animals as I do
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.24.2019 03:35PM EDT		Bobwidget's creation is the reality of a pleasing odour for his god.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 03:57PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		The physical body is my living spirit. Let focused nervous energy totally relax and release. For it is stress held unto. For there was no miracles performed. Only the release of what was unnatural. For a messiah will return and see all religions marred and turn from them and instead stand at the base of god they call reality. No longer a messiah but a herald of god and his corrective message. The body is aware. The attention is false.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 04:01PM EDT →Email ndanmai		There are chemical manufacturers in San Jose see, for fertilizer and cancer treatment etc. There are also industrial vacuum pump manufacturers, electronics most of it got offshored i think but that is what I liked. I dont think the dogs would care if it is more urban, they are like people they walk around with us and their turd goes into the toilet a lot of the time when there is rain or they are too small/old to get down the deck. we are on the wrong damned side of town.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 04:11PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u 2 are unnatural and false attention duhh. but what do u want me to do about it. any of my extra money goes to other mexican and buddhist already.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 04:16PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u 2 are not aware that is the problem, else you would have found out a way to add value, nobody is supposed to tell you how to do it. it is not because you don't know it is just because you are not aware. if you don't like it here then you leave it's not that hard.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 04:22PM EDT →Email ndanmai		ok other than my cousin I have the Tellez, the Sanchez, I have two other schoolmate in San Jose and their friends. you do not know anything, it is because you are not aware, it is not your lack of education or skill or any of that, you 2 just do not care about anyone. I have too many peope to take in, each of them adds value as I do. you 2 are at the very bottom of the list, like it is underneath the dog at the shelter
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 04:41PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u do not understand??? I do not love him quite that much. He is a random thug in my prison, if he causes further trouble then I need to force him out. everyone else wants the space because they work here, it does not matter who it is, the Tellez, the Sanchez, myself, my friends, strangers, they need the space. I think i'd feel bad if I shot him that is all.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 04:49PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Shot word again ndanmai? I might have to call and have them trace your IP. Seems your to unstable and I have to protect those around you.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 05:00PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well he wanted a duel. now he does not stay out of my face, dont really know what u expect.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 05:03PM EDT →Email ndanmai		yeah please call them
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 05:05PM EDT →Email ndanmai		you do not need to trace IP, you just need to dial 911 and give them my address, it is very simple. I know because i have called in assault rifles b4, they are very fast
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 05:08PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well he wanted a duel or you wanted a duel i am not sure it matters, since you are a gang see. i got nothing personal against you but it's how it works
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 05:15PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i told u we are not meant to be together, u didnt listen. i just see u like a sibling
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 05:21PM EDT →Email ndanmai		ok well i do not care if u are sibling if u torture animal see. and death threat are maybe from your gang and not you but i dunno what u expect me to do. I just want you two away from me unless you are conducting some sort of business, that is all.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.24.2019 05:58PM EDT		Imposter Bob strikes again.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 06:19PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Imposter Bob strikes again. " ......... Imposter says nothing. What does the even mean?
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 07:33PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "you do not need to trace IP, you just need to dial 911 and give them my address, it is very simple. I know because i have called in assault rifles b4, they are very fast " ......... Don't need your address. Cops look it up. Do I need to call?
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 08:54PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Yep. To many times utterances of shot and duel to the death. I'm pretty sure I will call. If this is a game good luck explaining your actions. If not a game your mental instability will lead your own hand. Plus utterances we are animal abusers and attacking.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 09:25PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Also the manipulative ploy of Phils saying I don't make the rules the forum moderator does. Only a ploy in hopes I say something off color to be banned. Why suggest this? Right Phil? I'm sure ndanmai is a friend of so tehs or Phil's. A ploy again suggested by so teh to have this forum shut down. Very much a effort to silence. But I have much bigger and bolder plans ahead. A anonymous group. To funny. Has things in place. Some things are to obvious to not see.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 09:49PM EDT →Email ndanmai		right u are animal abuser and u 2 never really called off ur duel so. plus Tellez and Sanchez are my family I dont know what you are doing there
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 09:52PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well what do u think a duel is, u get shot to death duh, it is easier than ever b4, i mean u prefer swords or what
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 09:57PM EDT →Email ndanmai		right Frank can get shot to death. how many times i got to say it, that is what a duel is.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 09:59PM EDT →Email ndanmai		ok well it doesnt have to be frank, u can send yourself, or one of his brothers it doesnt really matter thats how I see it , but someone is supposed to do it
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 10:18PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u mean wont the Tellez mourn, i guess not cause they are asking me to do it
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 10:27PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I might mourn, im probably the only one tho.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 10:32PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I dunno I think the duel Is kinder, the Sanchez want to knife u so
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.24.2019 10:41PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		I called.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.24.2019 10:52PM EDT →Email ndanmai		no u didnt, but if u want to i'd appreciate it
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.25.2019 05:11AM EDT		The manipulative ploy of Phil's in the Bob body narrative - zenguide is a dastardly and cunning Illuminati plan.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.25.2019 05:23AM EDT		Bobwidget says he's a cyber criminal and if you don't believe him just look at what he's gonna do to ya, when he's finished what he's doing to ya, stalking ya that is. His keystroke log is absolutely enormous but pales into insignificance when it comes to his webcam and cctv hacking records. He wants your bank details - account numbers, PINs, security codes - he needs the investments to fund his evil bid for world domination.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 01:18PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "The manipulative ploy of Phil's in the Bob body narrative - zenguide is a dastardly and cunning Illuminati plan. " ......... Don't care about that. My concern is the noosphere and those that serve. Would you say Phil the noosphere is a product of my imagination or real?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 01:18PM EDT →Email ndanmai		yeah exactly, they are basically lower than gangsters. i dont think they torture animals or target civillians, terrorist is the right word
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 01:21PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i dont know what the noosphere is, i dont care if you serve it or you are against it, i don't even care about u 2 past, I just say you should move out because you are married and you do not have family or work here. i am not his family either
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 01:23PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Bobwidget says he's a cyber criminal and if you don't believe him just look at what he's gonna do to ya, when he's finished what he's doing to ya, stalking ya that is. His keystroke log is absolutely enormous but pales into insignificance when it comes to his webcam and cctv hacking records. He wants your bank details - account numbers, PINs, security codes - he needs the investments to fund his evil bid for world domination. " ......... I'm gonna be going hunting a false god. As far as domination of the world it will be those inheriting the new body. The initial ones. Your neighbor, the military man, perhaps your girlfriend. And its plural Phil. Worlds. I guess I made up the noosphere. Just my imagination right?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 01:26PM EDT →Email ndanmai		you 2 might have made up some image of me as family, is that noosphere? u are strangers, even he is a stranger ive never done much with him
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Reply from so_teh Sep.25.2019 01:41PM EDT →Email so_teh		A nagging forum discussion very disruptive to the Zen peace ideal...
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 01:46PM EDT →Email ndanmai		you mean they should settle whatever they have with me in person, I agree. i do not have trouble understanding through messages but evidently they do
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 01:52PM EDT →Email ndanmai		its like they think anything will change if they just keep mixing their words. I will just tell them the same thing I do here, u are strangers
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 02:01PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "A nagging forum discussion very disruptive to the Zen peace ideal... " ......... Zen was created as a method to combat Mara. Your imagined peace easily disturbed is against zen that says only the ego gets fettered. Your speaking your false state. Only the unmoving inside is true peace and stillness.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 02:14PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "A nagging forum discussion very disruptive to the Zen peace ideal... " ......... Very disruptive is NOT an ideal of zen. It does not seem or maybe but says directly you have a frail ego that is easily fettered. Written in zen literature. You don't not know stillness within which is true peace. You cannot have true peace with a insecure attention you create moving within. An emotional state of peace like all emotions are subject to change. This false peace can be lost. Very disruptive. Speaks your mind. Period.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 02:31PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Also your suggestive manipulative statement against the post is evident. Your sociopathic mindset that thinks its OK to manipulate is part of the noosphere indoctrination. A sickness of mankind. Why would you post it otherwise when the ignore feature is on here? With the created false attention comes this scheming mindset. You just been called out.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:11PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well I could ignore you two but I think you are intent on bothering me in person in the future, do you mean you are not? like I am just imagining that he is stalking me. he was never here b4
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:12PM EDT →Email ndanmai		if you 2 actually don't want anything to do with me then just say so, makes it easier, but otherwise I can't ignore you because you are going to bother me in the future see
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:15PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I do not know what is zen peace ideal, I think you are both disruptive in daily life however, since you have left homes that provided you with private doctors and you have taken over property where you do not work, I do not mean for any corporation or chain I mean you do not even work for any families here
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:17PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I have not heard anything about Daniel or any of their pets. the only thing I have heard is you screaming at me to pick up your groceries when I am on the other side of town with infirm people and two new dogs, after you 2 left mine to suffocate.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:24PM EDT →Email ndanmai		it does not matter If he does not harm my health see. if I am even worried that he will interact with me again in the future then I am supposed to file a restraining order, I could be wrong but I have seen no indication that I am
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:25PM EDT →Email ndanmai		he is going to claim that I liked him or led him on etc., that is his imagination. I like people who are good with animals
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:27PM EDT →Email ndanmai		if I even have to worry about roommating with him then that is cause for a restraining order, I already told him I don't want him touching me
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:33PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well I think u were terrorists. I don't know if u will be good or bad in the future but that is irrelevant, you are not supposed to have anything to do with me, that is all. so why do I accept your duel, because that is a business affair, it does not go against the restraining order see, I don't know all the legal details but I'm pretty sure there are provisions like that
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:34PM EDT →Email ndanmai		you are allowed to kill me in a duel because it is a consensual business. otherwise it goes against the restraining order, I think that is what you are confused about
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:35PM EDT →Email ndanmai		likewise I have restraining order on some of my family but I still see them at gatherings, the nature of the interaction is different, it is not on a personal level see, so it is allowed.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:39PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well I think they were sacrificed for nothing, I don't think he is even making anything long term outside of San Jose. it would be more understandable if they were shot and eaten for survival
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:44PM EDT →Email ndanmai		u shoot a cow and it keeps a ton of people and cats fed. u do lab experiment on rat there are actually pretty strict regulations and u save a lot more animals than you sacrifice. a lot of medicine are discovered by accident while they are searching for a cure for something else.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 03:46PM EDT →Email ndanmai		if he just shot and ate something for survival I do not call that animal abuse. its when they suffer excruciating pain for absolutely no reason
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 04:06PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i dont think he'll ever be worth more than a dog frankly. my 2 new dog are much healthier without him asking for money all the time, like Bambi was almost my age but these two are even softer cause I feed them from the start
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 04:12PM EDT →Email ndanmai		they get lean meat and a bit of veg and fruit and i live off gruel and kitchen scraps. i got 2 infirm ppl too. i wanted to study engineering but i don't think i'll get time, so I plan on investing anything extra in people who know how to do it. he does not maintain households but he does not engineer either see. if i forget everything it is still not a good investment.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 04:13PM EDT →Email ndanmai		like my cousins already know more engineering and they do not have as much freedom or money as him. or your step brother etc., its just business
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 04:21PM EDT →Email ndanmai		i only cook masterpieces for dogs lol, my own food does not taste good. b4 i did not have access to the kitchen, they would scream
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 04:28PM EDT →Email ndanmai		he was not there when I was homeless. i never asked him for money, now he stalks me, gang stalks me rather.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 04:36PM EDT →Email ndanmai		the only thing I ever heard about his dog was that its eye fell out and that his grandma buried it. cant take medicine either tho he doesnt need it. not my type. I think he really might have some kind of mental retardation so maybe I am too hard on him or something
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 04:43PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Ndanmai. The attention is like a headache. Focused nervous energy. Get out of your head. You are your body.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.25.2019 04:50PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Your creating these thoughts ndanmai. Where are they coming from?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 05:06PM EDT →Email ndanmai		yeah keep your armpits away from me. anyways, as I was saying, he always acts surprised when I accept his duel see, it is like he does not understand what it means, so they call it stimming see. they repeat phrases but to them it is just noises, there is actually no language. i never really thought of it that way b4 or called him stupid fyi but he used to say a lot of random stuff without any context, could be autism.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 05:07PM EDT →Email ndanmai		your body is aggressive and drugged like OJ Simpson. it is you're.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 05:11PM EDT →Email ndanmai		my head and body are none of your business. I told you you are not my bloody aunt, she is not a slut and animal abuser like you
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 05:23PM EDT →Email ndanmai		see you are doing it again, you are speaking to me like you are family. perhaps you should check your head
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.25.2019 05:37PM EDT →Email ndanmai		well that is the only possible explanation, of course I have to come up with something fantastic if you 2 are not simply evil. then you must be drugged and he must be autistic.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.26.2019 05:57AM EDT		He says you're creating these thoughts. And then asks you where they are coming from.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.26.2019 06:11AM EDT		You are not your body, you are not your mind, you are not your thoughts – nor are you the emotions generated by your thoughts.
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Reply from so_teh Sep.26.2019 09:03AM EDT →Email so_teh		Bob's just a little bitch. Truth.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.26.2019 09:18AM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "He says you're creating these thoughts. And then asks you where they are coming from. " ......... The thoughts he creates come from him. You didn't get this. Weirrrrd.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 10:37AM EDT →Email ndanmai		That is not what u 2 said, u said I create thoughts, then u ask where they are coming from.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 10:45AM EDT →Email ndanmai		Frank is not just a little bitch but he also an animal torturer, exactly like Christie. Truth.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 10:51AM EDT →Email ndanmai		They do not have new animals. They can't run their pantries. So you can't even rape them everything will go missing. And you cannot deport them because they are not even monolingual.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:13AM EDT →Email ndanmai		well if he goes in for autism then that is a better defense than intoxication. he certainly acts autistic but I don't know if they'll actually diagnose him with it, they might, I didn't know him that well.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:15AM EDT →Email ndanmai		he used to quote TV and other people constantly that's all I know, I didn't even notice it was TV and other people until lately. they call it scripting, it is a form of stimming, but you do not have to be autistic to do it
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:18AM EDT →Email ndanmai		if he is actually autistic then it changes things see, it means he did not understand anything, else he needs to leave me.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:22AM EDT →Email ndanmai		it means he literally does not have basic communication skills but you have to actually get diagnosed. like he does not understand yes, no, he does not understand body language etc. it shows up on MRI if you are rich enough for that
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:25AM EDT →Email ndanmai		well he is either autistic or a sociopath that is the only conclusion. and you are one of the drug addict on the street except you are violent, everyone already knows that
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:31AM EDT →Email ndanmai		right then just look at his posts. he says I don't understand what you are saying, I called etc., but that is how he always acted. it is effectively autistic but you have to get it diagnosed
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:38AM EDT →Email ndanmai		if he actually had autism then it means he needs people teaching him how to read, not just words body language. otherwise he is just a common nigger as he like to put it.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 11:58AM EDT →Email ndanmai		Yeah they say kid, then they say knife in eye, then they say call the police when I say we are lucky to have guns instead. That's not even terrorist, I don't know what you'd call them but I call them Hillaries, passive aggression, sniping from afar, and poor investment is pretty much all they do.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 12:02PM EDT →Email ndanmai		They clearly get off to animal crush videos and to their imagination of me being unnerved, as they like to put it, as they wail relax the nervous energy
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.26.2019 12:05PM EDT →Email ndanmai		yeah or the Buddhists in vietnam which sheltered communist terrorist, the south could not do anything back see, but they blockaded medical supplies and it lost us the war. it's the same crap, that's why she cant treat her daddy's PTSD he saw all of it
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.26.2019 01:38PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		I wait for the stray females in the area to have kittens then I eat them body and soul. It gives me spirit energy and keeps me on top of my game being evil. Animals are not people but its a start.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.27.2019 05:41AM EDT		You say you're gonna be hunting a false god? Well, you don't need to look very far because you're serving the son of a bitch.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.27.2019 10:18AM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "You say you're gonna be hunting a false god? Well, you don't need to look very far because you're serving the son of a bitch. " ......... Yeah but I feel that way about you.
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.27.2019 12:19PM EDT		Your feelings are nothing to do with me. And you can change your creator god's name ad infinitum, he's still the demiurge, an imperfect, blind, demented and out of control, lesser god and you're the facilitator of that lesser god's counterfeit opposites.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.27.2019 04:01PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "Your feelings are nothing to do with me. And you can change your creator god's name ad infinitum, he's still the demiurge, an imperfect, blind, demented and out of control, lesser god and you're the facilitator of that lesser god's counterfeit opposites. " ......... Huh? Nature is a lesser god?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.27.2019 05:21PM EDT →Email ndanmai		That is not nature but useless capital. But yes, nature is generally an essential but lesser god.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.27.2019 05:38PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Well it's not even metalworking or agriculture, that is what I mean, but they got tortured for it. Also it's expensive as hell.
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Reply from Bobwidget Sep.28.2019 02:19PM EDT →Email Bobwidget		Quote: "That is not nature but useless capital. But yes, nature is generally an essential but lesser god. " ......... Nature being a aspect of reality is not a lesser god. What god is greater then reality?
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:17PM EDT →Email ndanmai		You meant nature as in devil's tower mountain. You 2 have severely damaged animals and spent tremendous resources for absolutely no reason, that is all I know, which you were not aware of.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:19PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Generally you damaged reality whether it is nature or agriculture, since the resources you spend did not go to either. Part of the damage was to yourselves and your poor health.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:24PM EDT →Email ndanmai		usually when you say reality I do not see the same things. like you say the medicine helps, or the caffeine makes you pass out, or the dogs are healthy, or people are still friends, or that you contribute to agriculture, etc., that is all reality according to you.
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:26PM EDT →Email ndanmai		according to you I also read a lot or I have some meditation doctrine etc. I understand high school subjects that is all
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:29PM EDT →Email ndanmai		if you understood science back in high school I do not think a single issue would have occurred .both the facts about production and biology but also observation and communication skills
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:31PM EDT →Email ndanmai		basically I think you are like communist reeducation camp officials. they run labor camps, they make themselves and the animals sick, they waste resources mindlessly. if they chance upon a factory they do not know where it fits in or how to repair it
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:32PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I do not think u cannot be useful or that I am any good fyi, just that I evidently have a better grasp of this reality you go on endlessly about when I am mainly in the arts
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:37PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Frank acts like he has severe autism but he has to get diagnosed, I do not know if it is the reality, if not then he is a common criminal
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Reply from ndanmai Sep.28.2019 04:41PM EDT →Email ndanmai		w/ Autism they get abnormal electrical activity in the brain and sometimes seizures. like when you took opiates, except it is a genetic disease
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.29.2019 04:39AM EDT		Creation
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Reply from Phil Space Sep.30.2019 05:43PM EDT		Piano Man
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Reply from so_teh Oct.01.2019 09:41AM EDT →Email so_teh		I don't know how Alan allowed a delusion to persist on his website for so long... Don't know if he took care of it or not? For a forum that is meant for clear guidance I wouldn't want harmful false perceptions to persist on my website.
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Reply from Phil Space Oct.01.2019 05:45PM EDT		You appear to have survived the violence of creation.
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Reply from so_teh Oct.02.2019 01:06PM EDT →Email so_teh		It's a wonder... Of course, The world has died stranger deaths...
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Reply from Phil Space Oct.03.2019 05:26AM EDT		It's a re-creation or is that recreation? It's a subtle art for sure.
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Reply from so_teh Oct.03.2019 11:19AM EDT →Email so_teh		You start to appreciate the desert after so long.
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Reply from Phil Space Oct.03.2019 05:03PM EDT		Sandra?
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Reply from Phil Space Oct.03.2019 05:34PM EDT		Michelangelo
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Reply from Phil Space Oct.04.2019 05:32AM EDT		Something's gotta stop the flow
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Reply from so_teh Oct.04.2019 01:43PM EDT →Email so_teh		Does [this] seem fake to you or is it just me?
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Reply from so_teh Oct.04.2019 02:01PM EDT →Email so_teh		If you think God is the decider you'd be wrong. If you think you are the decider you are also wrong. - who is the decider?
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Reply from Phil Space Oct.05.2019 05:28AM EDT		Yes. Five tons of flax.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:00PM EDT →Email ndanmai		It's not really about me. If you have the sons of Vietnam veteran holding working class animals hostage then I think the economy is next. I do not think it would be unpatriotic of me to move.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:03PM EDT →Email ndanmai		There is not a single person in my family who is not upright, they have healthy pets, they have work in orchards and real factories. My dad is only yakuza, he does not do what they do, he is also in construction+architecture. None of them want their kids in USA.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:05PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I mean they do not even rob the numerous bank and museum around them, they go to a working class suburb, they find another working class that does not even pass military physical of any country, then they hold my chihuahua hostage if I do not work for free. there is no way they could not have known she was sick.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:22PM EDT →Email ndanmai		My family has seen more death than any Vietnam veteran. my uncles were teenagers on the fishing boats. How come they can still program software for hospitals and their companies can't when they are educated in the best country. How come we don't have punks like the widgets.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:24PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I'm serious, if I stay here I do not mind engaging in a civil war. I save all my money for my family if they want to move, I think they do. I always wanted to move to Europe like Phil, other than Jeremy Soule Elton John is my hero
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:27PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Bambi suffocated to death for absolutely nothing. They don't do anything except waste fuel and resources, worse than an orchestra pretty much. What is death by gunshot they are ridiculous.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:31PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I can do calculus and I remember some programming but I am back here with untreated genetic condition and w/ the dogs and old people, it's their loss.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:33PM EDT →Email ndanmai		I'd have no trouble getting medicated in India, or hell in Ho Chi Minh city, that's how bad it is. a swamp can manage the medicine and USA cannot, it has lunatic animal abusers addicted on an opioid shortage
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 03:53PM EDT →Email ndanmai		once they use up all the fuel and steel and chemical then what??? they are going to know how to captain a merchant ship or work an oil rig??? that is what flax is.
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 04:26PM EDT →Email ndanmai		we dont owe this country a damned thing. we grew your fruits, we automated your inventories and medical records, we built your houses. we took care of your animals, they are actually yours since we did not breed them. we didnt get anything except u drug addicts attacking them. I still live off my yard and I do not have health insurance. those are your soldiers, a bunch of rapists
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 04:29PM EDT →Email ndanmai		which one is the Vietnam, do you think it is overseas, no the Ho Chi Minh is reborn in Frank and Christie. I do not approve of napalm or chemical warfare but bullets are fine
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Reply from ndanmai Oct.05.2019 04:44PM EDT →Email ndanmai		Let's see, they go to private school, they have military family and private doctor, but they take Chinese medicine and they torture animals. They are monolingual and ultra nationalist. The only thing they have to brag about is their meditation and kung fu. Sounds like Ho Chi Minh to me.
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