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  A monk asked the Chinese Ch'an master Chien Paling:
-What is the difference between the meaning of the Sutras and that of the Patriarch?
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: THE ABSOLUTE BEST FOR YOUR MIND
vertical line Posted on Nov.18.2019 @ 04:50AM EDT by so_teh
let it go -- the
smashed word broken
open vow or
the oath cracked length
wise -- let it go it
was sworn to
go

let them go -- the
truthful liars and
the false fair friends
and the boths and
neithers -- you must let them go they
were born
to go

let all go -- the
big small middling
tall bigger really
the biggest and all
things -- let all go
dear

so comes love

e.e. cummings
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Nov.19.2019
07:57PM EDT 
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vertical line My heart hurts,
It's an ache that doesn't make much sense.
I don't know what it is.
For a long time I have wondered,
Maybe it is the wondering itself that hurts.
I try to understand,
But fail to grasp,
Maybe there is nothing to grasp.

And it puts me down,
To have a hurt heart,
Because it appears from the outside that nobody relates.
But I know this isn't so.
Others have this pain,
Yet it is a pain that is extremely individual.

So, what is it?
I don't know.
Perhaps in this "I don't know" is freedom...
But for now it just feels human to carry this hurt around.
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Nov.27.2019
01:56PM EDT 
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vertical line Let the physical body totally relax so it releases focused stress energy held by the body.

Anger and I don't know have a reason. The attention. Focused nervous energy. When gone then we see again. Then we know.

When I say no objective attention I mean it. It can be controlled. Unless humankind stops worshipping this false doctrine they won't break free.

All concepts no matter how close to truth they are is just imagined intellect that is a reflection of reality. In a large way false information.
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Nov.27.2019
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vertical line False doctrine = imagined attention.
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Reply from so_teh
Nov.30.2019
01:25PM EDT 
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vertical line I am every body
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Dec.01.2019
12:12PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "I am every body"
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And trees and grass and birds?

No. Thats imagination and a focus on conceptual garbage.

Let your imagined attention totally relax.
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Dec.05.2019
10:26AM EDT 
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vertical line Let the attention totally relax. It will then buzz a little loud and then dissipate. It is not native to the human being. No fear the physical body that is aware of reality is you.
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Dec.07.2019
02:47PM EDT 
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vertical line The physical body is me and is aware of reality. This is the Buddha body. It is our original state. Always exists and is always present. It is not my truth but what is. Reality. Our GOD made it super simple for us and we do not need to try. His message the body is aware from me to you is the saving words that are non punishment.

Do not focus energy inward or outward and have no viewpoint and let the physical being accept and see reality as is.

Do not create an attention with focused energy. It stresses the body. Let this stress totally relax and release for relief. Then there is no need to try to relax. It will be your natural state.

The body is aware and the attention is the false god. This message which is not mine is realities and NO debate is allowed. I am not saviour reality is. But I am his herald and uphold his laws.

A messiah did return. Realized all religions, all philosophys are partially wrong. Any that do not adhere to reality as god are incorrect. Any that feel their doctrine is correct against others is wrong. Any that feel they will be saved and others punished for not believing in their doctrine are wrong. A messiah returned and realized this is mean spirited. For salvation and enlightenment should come to all that desire it. No more messiahs. They are incorrect. No more Buddha's. We all are.
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Reply from Phil Space
Dec.08.2019
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vertical line Imagination is everything.  And you are one prize idiot.
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Dec.08.2019
05:56AM EDT 
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vertical line I told u they have crucified animals, perfumes, garbages, and destroyed medicine everywhere, they're communist state, literally from China.
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Dec.08.2019
05:57AM EDT 
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vertical line some of their family and friends suicided and the eagle scouts left it's no wonder
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line No i mean they ship stuff in on Amazon all the time, shampoos, dead bird, u name it. all of those are dependent on foreign fuels and chemicals which they are supposedly fighting, then they destroy medicine imports im serious, I can live without them but they say they are Trump supporters, or progressives
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Dec.08.2019
06:15AM EDT 
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vertical line ya they're all like that I checked its not just a few punks running off with their moms credit card. anyone worth anything they already committed suicide
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Dec.08.2019
06:22AM EDT 
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vertical line they don't even follow Mexican law let alone any precepts. they're the most expensive and unproductive in San Jose. Then they are humorless and tasteless, they're really a Communist funded terror cell
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line who said anything about mean. I complained about them running off from duels they started, they're the ones crying wolf and jerk the entire time. Heralds of Hillary
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line Ya a million bureaus and shopping malls, and coups she would not fight herself, that is Hillary's money, after supporting the Vietcong. these ppl they screw the neighborhood the same way w/ their money
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Dec.08.2019
06:39AM EDT 
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vertical line given the amount of capital destruction I do not know why they call it state capitalism isn't it just communism
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Dec.08.2019
06:46AM EDT 
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vertical line Time, imports, medicine, they destroy all of it, but they are a very rich bureau. there's nothing else to their existence except poor taste, not no taste they have gigantic playlists they just suck
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line rofl well they used to call themselves Christians, now they're followers of Osho supposedly. i'm worried they might have kids, i might have to call the police on them
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line ya that's what im saying its not just crucifixion their whole life is like that. its too late for the animals but theyre still selling the country plus they might have kids i told u, that is no place for kids. anyone worth anything they already left or suicided, i can give you all their names
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line so supposedly its no longer a terrorist cell without blood but now it is an osho center, u go there yourselves and tell me if its somewhere u want to send your kids
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line 420 Rutland that is their address. UC Components is their company. if there are kids then i think they need the police called on them
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Dec.08.2019
09:54AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Imagination is everything.  And you are one prize idiot.
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No. Imagination is just a part of reality. I may be an idiot but I won't take any mans words on things just realities.

Science claims all single celled organisms started in clay. God being present did make us from clay. Life. Reality is our creator. This isn't even religious. Everything from gravity to the sun to trees and the timing of the tides is the intelligence of reality.

There is no excuse to not see god. Even written biblically in that half evil bible.
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Reply from Phil Space
Dec.08.2019
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vertical line You can't experience the reality of anything.  Reality doesn't exist.  You're not even experiencing sense data.  What you're continually talking about is your experience of an interpretation of sense data because you are one of the world's unteachables, and yes, this was indeed a very nice neighbourhood before the monkeys got out of control. 
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line They're rich, they trash the neighborhood, they strangle dogs, they start duels then they run off from them what more do u need to know. and now they might have kids
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line Quote: "You can't experience the reality of anything.  Reality doesn't exist.  You're not even experiencing sense data.  What you're continually talking about is your experience of an interpretation of sense data because you are one of the world's unteachables, and yes, this was indeed a very nice neighbourhood before the monkeys got out of control. 
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No. Objects don't exist in reality save as imagination in the head.

You have nothing but an imagined attention focusing nervous system energy.

Wrong. I can smell flowers. Sense the wind and cold. Saying reality does not exist is delusion beyond measure.

Your deluded by incorrect zen. Not all is correct and most is wrong.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line A mind conceptually bound cannot see reality as is.

The attention equals the false god and is an imagined construct.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line It's got nothing to do with zen.  You are without sincerity and lack authenticity.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line Quote: "It's got nothing to do with zen.  You are without sincerity and lack authenticity.
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That philosophy is wrong. Zen or not. Its incorrect imagination that is conceptually conceived.

Reality is god and totally real.

Your head imagines otherwise.

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Dec.08.2019
01:27PM EDT 
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vertical line Magic and miracles are based on imaginary phenomenon. Unhealthy and incorrect. Mankind will learn to heal themselves.

Do not create that mind dingaling with your imagination you call the attention at me. Its gay.

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Dec.08.2019
01:40PM EDT 
vertical line Gay?  Is there something wrong with gay?  Is it a body thing?  Or is it perhaps something to do with the hundreds of "nude pics" or the rape fantasies you psychotically want to inflict on the other eh?  I mean it's not as if your body is even photogenic, know what I mean?
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line You imagine over and over again. I don't want you sticking that attention at me. Stick it back in your head. I don't want to be gay.

This website and every zen forum website is riddled with people unchecked with their imaginations. Were when confronted their frail ego yells wrong.

Its been said some of what I post is painful. It is painful.

Mankind now is at its weakest. The very clay feet of the statue of Babylon.

We lost. The war for sanity done. Told their attentions are imagined and yet not truly questioning it. Weakness on every level.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line lmao even the Osho bioterrorism thing was just a bad case of stomach flu, i never heard of dog crucifixions and giant garbages everywhere
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line Daniel's fine it's the others that need MRI
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Dec.08.2019
02:38PM EDT 
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vertical line I don't want your attention. I despise and hate it.
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Dec.08.2019
02:45PM EDT 
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vertical line i didnt ask u stupids, I said Daniel's fine the others need MRI
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Dec.08.2019
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Everybody loves a good old war on the flesh waged by spiritual beings - it's a comedy cocktail for one and all.

Hahahahahahahahahave a good week till next week.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line The Power Of Love
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Dec.08.2019
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Everybody loves a good old war on the flesh waged by spiritual beings - it's a comedy cocktail for one and all.



Hahahahahahahahahave a good week till next week.

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Insane laughter?

Don't mind Phil people. He's just upset his cherished imagined beliefs might be wrong.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line To say reality is not real is delusion and mental illness.

All mental illness is a result of the lost imagined attention. Otherwise awareness views them as just mere created thoughts.

It is best to abandon all ideas of reality and have no fear and see it as is.

To say imagination is everything means to be lost in an imaginary world self created. Another form of mental illness.

Mental illness is cured within the framework of awareness.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line right so we need a police raid on 420 Rutland, now what about the company are the involved or no
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line i told you people to lay off my only concern are your kids
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line if I dont adopt them then somebody needs to that is all, you people you are not fit to be parents
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line Snuff films, garbage, next child rape
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line dont even know if the PACT bill will keep you from doing it again
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line i told u i am too busy to see them. i got work u people are on drugs all day
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line if they dont like what they are seeing then they are welcome here but i dont have much money
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vertical line Ndanmai don't play this game of pretend insane. Don't pretend what is said is not true. This game is old. Whoever you are you play the insane card. That is manipulation. Don't be a child of three.
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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line the hell does that even mean. I said I don't like your dog strangling commie asses and you need to hand over your kids to the authorities
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Dec.08.2019
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you strangled animals, you asked for a duel, now you are chickening out. you fools are on drugs all day you don't do a damned thing for San Jose

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Dec.08.2019
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vertical line now is the company involved or not. I can't adopt all your kids that is why you need to call the authorities, none of you are fit for parenthood
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line even without the snuff films I'd hose your fat asses u are twice my age and u still bring garbage only it's not even nothing
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line seriously i feel bad for your kids, maybe you people shouldve have passed high school
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line if i dont hose u they certainly will. there's nothing but snuff films and mismanaged imports, you'd have to have the mind of 3 year old to breed in your situation, and now you are showing me your kids. u are drug addicts and bores
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line theres only one cult it is you people, i cant talk to one person without talking to a whole commune, it's always a commune isnt it, 20 is already too old for a commune. nobody but a drug addict would breed there, now you bring snuff films
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line u keep bringing up family u ppl need MRI. i dont have family and i dont want family everyone here is a drug addict
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line it's less than nothing. u are all fat, immature, out of control slobs, u are worth less than the dogs u club. i cant tell that i'm not in a jungle. stupid is not the issue u just took too many drugs in the 70s
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line i'd exchange the whole thing for an animal shelter and a ghost town u ppl just keep screwing everyone
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line no you people lost the war cause you have no balls. it's a Chinese dog torture slum , literally you import Chinese goods. except you have lotions. that's why your friends suicided. and now your kids have no future.
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line yes u are a commune and a cult that makes crush videos. now there are probably more people than you think who'd enjoy that but I dont, it's not Mexican it's Chinese, those dogs are Mexican u aint
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line now other than the communes and cults and torture of Mexicans i go to the counter and they dont understand my damned medication, so they're not even orderly for Chinese
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line no you're not you damned gooks u dont belong in this country. I dont want you I want the dead and my time back. now u screw up again and it'll be more than the PACT bill your kids will knife you
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line a bloodless, mexican torturing drug den that's what you people are. it's obvious to everyone but you.
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line no just be more aware. i should not have to explain the realities to you. you cant be more aware then go get MRI
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line your kids are not my job if you cant handle them then call the police
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line and get your damned GEDs
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line then quit bitching and get them again. i went through the same things, I did mine, now you do yours
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Dec.09.2019
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vertical line Reality is insane.
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vertical line What Is Reality?
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vertical line Reality is insane!
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