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vertical line Posted on Jan.11.2020 @ 08:50AM EDT by yiphei
Hi everyone,

I am a Philosophy student with an interest in Eastern Philosophy, particularly in Zen Buddhism. I have some light academic background in the subject plus some practical background with meditation and monastic life after having stayed in the Rinzai temple of Tekishinjuku Kyoto Kokusai Zendo in Kyoto. However, there is still much to perfect and learn about Zen Buddhism (both theory and practice), and I want to return to a Zen temple to study Zen and practice Zazen. What I am looking for is to strengthen my theoretical understanding of Zen Buddhist teachings and perfect the art of Zazen. My goal is not only to learn Zen Buddhism but to fully embrace and embody its teachings in all facets of life. Therefore, I am not looking for something that satisfies the merely curious but for something rigorous, intensive, and demanding in the true spirit of Zen. With this in mind, would you know of any temple/monastery that can offer what I am looking for? It can be either a Rinzai or Soto, and it can be anywhere (US or abroad). If abroad, an English instructor/mentor would be necessary.

Really appreciate all the advice and suggestion
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Reply from so_teh
Jan.11.2020
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vertical line Hello,
You sound serious and it sounds like you have some certainty that this is what you are after. Unfortunately, I don't know where you should go for training. I do wish you luck in your search and may your hardships be few!
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Reply from Enver m.
Mar.02.2020
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vertical line hello yiphei
any temple is a good temple
as the language of the zen is same
just find out that language
I think you are capable of finding a good temple
which suits with you.
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Reply from Enver m.
Mar.05.2020
01:34PM EDT 
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vertical line you can go to japan
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Reply from Avisitor
Mar.08.2020
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vertical line There are plenty of Zen centers in New York.
Just google. Pick one which you believe you will do well with.
Go there and seek information that you need.
If you still feel good about the place then go there to learn under a teacher.

Good Luck
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Reply from Bobwidget
Apr.15.2020
10:37AM EDT 
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vertical line Seriously focused is not what the world needs.

Physical being let focused energy you create with nervous energy relax.

There is no state to achieve that does not already exist.

I am a physical being.
I exist without trying.
I am aware of reality without trying.
My senses work without trying.

There is nothing to be done. But to undo.

Physical being let the created attention relax.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.17.2020
03:41PM EDT 
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vertical line Nope. You do not own an attention.

Let my physical being that is aware totally relax inward focused energy.

Your very nature is not insecurity. It is not doubt.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.17.2020
04:44PM EDT 
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vertical line What do you create an attention with?

Crap we are told as kids. Watch where your walking you'll trip. Pay attention to where your walking you'll bump your head.

No. You do not own an attention.

They say the body gives off emg. No it don't.

My physical being is aware without trying at all. The state to let inward focused what? Totally relax and release for relief.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.18.2020
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vertical line Bobwidget desires your attention.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.18.2020
09:55AM EDT 
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vertical line Nope.

Physical being let the created attention totally relax.
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
11:38AM EDT 
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vertical line Call the police Vanessa
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
11:39AM EDT 
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vertical line on your whole family they already got my dog and grandpa killed I demand reparations
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
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vertical line If they don't pay then their guardian is supposed to pay now who is their guardian speak quickly please
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
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vertical line you are barricading MY property get off it. i am not supposed to track down the money you are supposed to pay it years ago
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.18.2020
11:56AM EDT 
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vertical line At night when we want to go to sleep we let the attention relax. Or we would not. It would be active. Preventing sleep.

But if you let the focused energy of the attention totally relax your natural awareness of the physical being that is always present will be felt more and very desired.
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Reply from Enver m.
Jun.18.2020
11:58AM EDT 
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vertical line mrs ndanmai,
this is a zen buddhist forum. I don't understand what you are talking about.!!!
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Reply from Enver m.
Jun.18.2020
12:01PM EDT 
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vertical line I think this trollosphere forum is full of trolls.
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
12:02PM EDT 
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vertical line it is a snuff film ring and communist insurgency you have destroyed the whole country u are one or no is my only question
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Jun.18.2020
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vertical line troll means vandalism which you also do you are barely above serial killers
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Jun.18.2020
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vertical line who is going to pay for any of you your legion doesnt want you I dont want any of you.
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Jun.18.2020
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vertical line the prison does not want to pay for any of u i already called them u are too expensive. so what do i do execute u.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.18.2020
12:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Let focused energy totally relax. My physical being is aware without trying at all.

There will be no more pain. Because our body's will not be hyped up on nervous energy and pain will not hurt as much.

There shall be no more hunger. As our hyped up nervous body's require a lot of food. So we won't have to eat near as much.

There shall be no more death. Meaning no more violent deaths. The body upon getting very old its energy will just deplete. Also meaning return from a simple death. The body automatically self repairs.

No more dreams to disturb our sleep.

We will not have to exercise. Animals don't. We will just want to play.
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Jun.18.2020
12:22PM EDT 
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vertical line Old world views will pass into oblivion as mans eyes reopen to a world we have forgotten.

Man will watch over man once again and the Babylon's will also pass into oblivion as gods kingdom which is the natural laws of reality that has always existed will be followed.
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
12:22PM EDT 
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vertical line what is we did u even check if anyone taking u
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Reply from ndanmai
Jun.18.2020
12:26PM EDT 
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vertical line k what if Sumita just wants to run off then what do i do with everyone.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.20.2020
08:22AM EDT 
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vertical line My physical being is aware. The cure to release focused energy.

The body is aware. The most important message for our entire civilization.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.20.2020
11:39AM EDT 
vertical line lmfao - the human body is made up of more bacteria than human cells - each time Bobwidget defecates, the microbiome outsources his brain in order that the microbes can intensively study and practice zen.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.20.2020
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No pain doesn't hurt as much, apparently.  Bobwidget, the last of the constipated crappers.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.20.2020
07:37PM EDT 
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vertical line The aware physical being is me without trying at all. This is simply self realization.

It cannot be changed. It cannot be ignored. It cannot be muted. It is what it is. Beyond thought or focus. We are what we are. What reality intended.

The message from reality the body is aware is a message for not only this world but other worlds. It is a message of unification. A message of deliverance and salvation. A message to let the pent up focused energy relax and for the being to be at peace. To rest fully without effort.

I only come as realities messenger. No better then anyone else. I only carry gods message.
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jun.20.2020
08:13PM EDT 
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No pain doesn't hurt as much, apparently.  Bobwidget, the last of the constipated crappers.
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No. Very opposite. Relaxing and letting yourself crap.

Modern child birth they are taught to strain and push. But the exact opposite is needed. We have been taught the wrong ways.

You seem moderately unstable Phil. I can only suggest let your focused energy totally relax. I cannot help you. O doctor you must heal your self.

You only fight against gods message. Which is not about me at all.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.21.2020
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Jun.21.2020
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vertical line Awareness is a way out of the seriousness of this world. Something we do not need.

Your lol points to some viewpoint that realities message is not true. A very nervous expression that borders on a obscure unstable mindset. That is more serious then you see.

Lol doesn't bother me as its gods message. So your really laughing at god.
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Jun.21.2020
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vertical line Extended life will occur through the physical organism. Not science. These types of endeavors with science will be dismantled in our near future. But not because I say so but mankind will see reality and anything that conflicts with our nature or nature itself will not be allowed.

The doctrine of attention will only be allowed to be taught as the mind of animals. Not us.

Our appetite to consume anything we want will also change as this habit destroys our environment.

It is not even a question of not being allowed but what is naturally correct.

The union of the returning of man and nature will occur. Which is our eden we have abandoned in exchange for mostly crap science.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.21.2020
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THRICE LOL

Spirit recoils from you, your miserable god and your frakkin message. I mean, what kind of a god needs you as His herald?  You say He is all powerful and all knowing.  However, because He can do everything, He can do nothing, since the act of doing requires opposition.  He knows everything so there is nothing for Him to learn.  He can't go anywhere, since He is already frakkin everywhere, like cowsh!t in Calcutta. Since your one god universe has no friction by definition, your nasty god invents it, along with conflict, pain, fear, sickness, famine, war, old age and Death. And your one god pre-recorded universe of which He is the recorder is running down like an old clock.

[Thanks Bill]
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.21.2020
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vertical line Yeah I'm pi$$ing myself laughing at God.
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Jun.21.2020
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THRICE LOL



Spirit recoils from you, your miserable god and your frakkin message. I
mean, what kind of a god needs you as His herald?  You say He is all
powerful and all knowing.  However, because He can do everything, He can
do nothing, since the act of doing requires opposition.  He knows
everything so there is nothing for Him to learn.  He can't go anywhere,
since He is already frakkin everywhere, like cowsh!t in Calcutta. Since your one
god universe has no friction by definition, your nasty god invents it,
along with conflict, pain, fear, sickness, famine, war, old age and
Death. And your one god pre-recorded universe of which He is the
recorder is running down like an old clock.



[Thanks Bill]

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Why me? mankind is at its weakest in human history. Not our faults per say. No god does not create these hardships for us. Man does.

Mankind has done these things. Not god. Disease has always been intentionally released on humanity.

I do not follow the God of the bible. It is more representing the false god of mankind's creation. I only adhere to the visible god of reality. A one sentence passage in the bible all neglect.

Physical being let focused energy totally relax. Or. Physical being let nervous energy totally relax and focus it no more.
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Jun.21.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Yeah I'm pi$$ing myself laughing at God.

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Your eyes fail you. For there is but one sun that shines on us all. You cannot insult me. Only insult your own being with your lack of correct vision. This fault lays in you. Not me.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.21.2020
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vertical line It's your Bible, your attention, your awarness, your doctirne, your this, your that.  It's all you. Yadda yadda yadda.
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Jun.21.2020
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Jun.21.2020
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All good. You've made up your mind and that's fine. Those that follow the doctrine of awareness will do so. Those who follow the doctrine of attention will do so.

But. These conflicts between these two doctrines must be resolved.

This is my races world first.
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Jun.21.2020
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You really have said nothing. Just been insulting. You don't even defend your viewpoint with logic or reasoning. Nor do you even attempt to really show any flaws in mine.

Your just insulting with totally no real intelligence.

You argue to argue and that's it.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.22.2020
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vertical line I don't follow any doctrine.  I don't have anything to defend.
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Jun.22.2020
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vertical line Quote: "I don't follow any doctrine.  I don't have anything to defend.
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Your dialogue and responses are filtered through the prism of the attention. Obvious or you would agree with the understanding of awareness 100%.

Its not about a doctrine. They are formulated words. It is about what's false in the human condition and what's true and natural.

Do you have an attention?
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.22.2020
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Jun.22.2020
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vertical line words of no value. failure as in? do you even know?
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.22.2020
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vertical line Oh puhlease.  You have created strawmen ad nauseam for your own dubious purposes because that's what you do - you just can't help yourself or stop.  Maybe there is someone else you can lure into a meaningless back and forth.  Good luck with that.
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Jun.22.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Oh puhlease.  You have created strawmen ad nauseam for your own dubious purposes because that's what you do - you just can't help yourself or stop.  Maybe there is someone else you can lure into a meaningless back and forth.  Good luck with that.
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Strawman? So vague and meaningless. Your gibberish is akin to ndanmai.
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Jun.22.2020
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vertical line Quote: "I think this trollosphere forum is full of trolls."
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Have not seen you on the old forum for a while now.
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Jun.23.2020
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Have not seen you on the old forum for a while now.
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Hello avisitor
I finally overcome my intellectuel understanding.
%100 ready and eager for the practice.
It took me many years.
How come my mind is serene now.

How have you been doing?
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Jun.23.2020
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line you know you are a lazy fuker and you need to get GED nobody wants to know you get out
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line you dont want to know anything fine jsut get off everyone property stop using everyone's hard work you lazy fuking bum
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line you dont want to know anyhing then why do u keep stalking my daughter she complain to me several time
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line k snuff film, forced pregnancy, infecting others with disease, ballot that ruin the whole country offices what else. all of u have one sin or another. u destroyed even the zenguide traffic no stranger even open the webpage anymore thats y i dont bother settling court here. and i have long list dont take it so personally
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line why does it need to be post here does it keep anyone safer. most ppl already kno in the street they pull out their knives its just your family drunk
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line I've ignore ndanmai.
If someone others appear to make headache
I'll happy to add them to my ignore list either.
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Jun.23.2020
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vertical line Don't hesitate to use ignore button.
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Jun.24.2020
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vertical line ¿Quien es?
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Jun.24.2020
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vertical line Have you got any famous last words for me?
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