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vertical line Posted on Feb.03.2020 @ 06:18AM EDT by Phil Space
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Feb.09.2020
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Feb.09.2020
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vertical line The leading edge________________________
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Feb.09.2020
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vertical line Songs help no one.

Physical body let INWARD focused nervous energy totally relax.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.11.2020
12:27PM EDT 
vertical line Octaves in sound, light and time help everyone regardless.  They might even soothe your savage breast if you weren't such an @hole.
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Feb.11.2020
12:32PM EDT 
vertical line Hope this helps
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Feb.11.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Octaves in sound, light and time help everyone regardless.  They might even soothe your savage breast if you weren't such an @hole.
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A temporary solution is all they are that does not fully address mankind's issues.

Animals focus their nervous system energy to form an attention. Natural for humans but our intelligence far outweighs theirs.

Physical body let focused nervous system energy totally relax.

Working within the confines of the attention limits our intelligence. A construct we create intentionally that is not natural to humans.

Only those unwillingly to see directly what the attention is have a fear of losing it. A weakness and stubbornness comprised of attachment.

You cannot have attachment with no attention. Nor does the ugly head of insecurity arise. Nullified.

So. Tell me what the attention is.
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Feb.11.2020
06:02PM EDT 
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vertical line There should be at least are 4 firings in zazen (when you sit).

First firing- Nothing but only being

Second firing- Dropping away body and mind

Third firing- Arousing the mind of compassion or passion for all

Fourth firing- Intent to actualize Bodhicitta

Bodhicitta is a spontaneous wish to attain enlightenment motivated by great compassion for all sentient beings, accompanied by a falling away of the attachment to the illusion of an inherently existing self. - Wikipedia
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.12.2020
06:33AM EDT 
vertical line Check out the science of sound.
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Feb.12.2020
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vertical line Quote: "There should be at least are 4 firings in zazen (when you sit).

First firing- Nothing but only being

Second firing- Dropping away body and mind

Third firing- Arousing the mind of compassion or passion for all

Fourth firing- Intent to actualize Bodhicitta

Bodhicitta is a spontaneous wish to attain enlightenment motivated by great compassion for all sentient beings, accompanied by a falling away of the attachment to the illusion of an inherently existing self. - Wikipedia
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Not all is correct in zen. Most is wrong.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.12.2020
09:55AM EDT 
vertical line So what?  Ask reality to help ya.
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Feb.12.2020
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vertical line Quote: "So what?  Ask reality to help ya.
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Reality help Phil.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.12.2020
12:52PM EDT 
vertical line Nah that's your schtick and yours alone. 
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Feb.12.2020
02:20PM EDT 
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Feb.12.2020
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Not all is correct in zen. Most is wrong."
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Hmmm... And here I thought this was a Zen website.
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Feb.12.2020
07:13PM EDT 
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vertical line Zen and myself and the non-dual aspect of the two are a big inspiration in my life. Even if I am having a bad day the inspiration from Zen has always a way of pointing my attitude in the right direction.

In every bad day there is a good attitude. -Zen saying
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Feb.12.2020
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Not all is correct in zen. Most is wrong.
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Hmmm... And here I thought this was a Zen website. "
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I didn't say all was wrong did I?

Most is wrong because its based off the doctrine of attention. Easy to spot in all philosophical literature.

To be or not to be is the question. No its not. You exist automatically.

The fear we won't live again is a fear based on insecurity. We must be more then this physical being with constant change of thoughts. But we are not.

I was here from the start. I base my knowledge on the doctrine of awareness. Our original state of being.

The doctrine of attention was introduced and forced upon us.

You don't know because unlike the zen master you cannot remember past lives. I can. The attention blocks people from remembering.
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Feb.13.2020
07:42AM EDT 
vertical line Wow.  I actually read that. The lies. Above. Okay. So you've been here from the outset with the past lives.  What next?  Where do you go from here with the past lives?  Have all your past lives been as puffed up, pointless and wastefu, as the one you are currently murdering?  Just asking.  Please enlighten us without delay.  There are hundreds, nay millions who await with bated breath for ... no not really.  Nobody really cares what you say.  Sorry to have to break it to you like this without the sugar but there's no wishy washy way of saying this: you're a funny story, a joke without a punchline told on an internet forum. 
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Feb.13.2020
11:20AM EDT 
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vertical line The zen master remembered all past lives. I guess he's wrong to and a liar.
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Feb.13.2020
01:47PM EDT 
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vertical line I think it was around 2008 when I decided that bots weren't going to impede my focus. Human bots like Bob. And automated bots like Alexa.
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Feb.13.2020
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vertical line I think it was around 2008 when I decided that bots weren't going to impede my focus. Human bots like Bob. And automated bots like Alexa.
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Feb.13.2020
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vertical line Quote: "I think it was around 2008 when I decided that bots weren't going to impede my focus. Human bots like Bob. And automated bots like Alexa. "
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Don't be stupid with imagination.
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Feb.14.2020
06:53AM EDT 
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Feb.14.2020
01:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Turning a blind eye to what's wrong in this world with an imaginary sense of false peace is very wrong. Its actually one of many issues that is a blight upon humanity.

Peace is the non moving within. The created attention ceased.

Physical being that is aware of reality let created focused energy totally relax for relief.
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Feb.14.2020
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vertical line Quote: "BW stares at the screen in sheer, blank system error and goes blip blip."
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Those with mental illness believe some of their imaginary thoughts are real to.

This is a thought you created and I have had nothing to do with it.

Being steadfast is good. Being memorized by every thought is not.
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Feb.14.2020
08:29PM EDT 
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vertical line 3 people on a forum or 3000 don't matter to me if they think I'm wrong. In truth it is millions upon millions with the disease of the attention.

Nothing can be said to me against gods word. Nothing. Ever.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.15.2020
05:35AM EDT 
vertical line Yeah, do the right thing.  Wake up and recognise the wrong and the harm you have visited on the unfortunate others during your life - the people, the animals - those whose existence you see as nothing more than a cast of supporting players in your pathetic drama.  In that regard, your presence on this and other forums in divers disguises is symptomatic of your deep malaise.
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Feb.15.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Yeah, do the right thing.  Wake up and recognise the wrong and the harm you have visited on the unfortunate others during your life - the people, the animals - those whose existence you see as nothing more than a cast of supporting players in your pathetic drama.  In that regard, your presence on this and other forums in divers disguises is symptomatic of your deep malaise.
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Not how I think or feel at all. But that post is just your imagination. Thoughts you believe are true.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.15.2020
12:17PM EDT 
vertical line It's plain for all to see. You are in denial.
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Feb.15.2020
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vertical line Quote: "It's plain for all to see. You are in denial."
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Words typed don't make them true.

Denial is you not seeing what the attention truly is.

What is the attention?
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Feb.15.2020
02:39PM EDT 
vertical line Well the words you type aren't true, I'll give you that. As for the denial, scroll through what you have actually written here. The stuff that hasn't been deleted.
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Feb.15.2020
10:08PM EDT 
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vertical line Hahahaha! What is BW even doing here! Who's he even talking to? Nobody is hearing his words. Just a sad dude on a mission going nowhere. You can sit here and write your fiction all day, Bob. You have zero sway, bro.
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Feb.15.2020
10:19PM EDT 
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vertical line Alan doesn't give a f--- about the quality of his website.

Generally, the forum was a good idea 10 to 15 years ago. Now people are moving away from the concept since the invention of trolls.

Who wants to babysit (moderate) abunch of d-bags. What a sh-tty job.
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Feb.15.2020
11:51PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Alan doesn't give a f--- about the quality of his website.

Generally, the forum was a good idea 10 to 15 years ago. Now people are moving away from the concept since the invention of trolls.

Who wants to babysit (moderate) abunch of d-bags. What a sh-tty job.
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Including you as well.
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Reply from Phil Space
Feb.16.2020
06:55AM EDT 
vertical line Don't take it personally. Glad to see you're still here Jordan.
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Feb.16.2020
06:18PM EDT 
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vertical line True. You also. It's been a good run this far.
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Feb.16.2020
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vertical line Quote: "True. You also. It's been a good run this far."
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This physical being has five senses. Making it aware. I don't have to try. I don't have to struggle.

You can see this correct?
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Feb.17.2020
08:40PM EDT 
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vertical line Why do you want confirmation that you are correct?

Whether you think you're right or wrong you are correct, either way.

Your speaking through a cardboard tube, Bob.

Just practice your own sh!t.

It's not my business.
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Feb.18.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Why do you want confirmation that you are correct?

Whether you think you're right or wrong you are correct, either way.

Your speaking through a cardboard tube, Bob.

Just practice your own sh!t.

It's not my business.
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Ass backwards. I don't need confirmation. I'm confirming gods message is correct.

Millions are incorrect. Gods message is to correct.

The body is aware. Let focused energy totally relax.

Its not your business. Its everyone's business and self correction is in order.
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Feb.18.2020
03:26PM EDT 
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vertical line Realities message is correct. Its not mine. I'm just his herald. You don't see anyone spreading this message. So it totally makes me his herald.

Are you more intelligent then god?

Oh. Note. God told me in ten years the worlds climate will be corrected. That was three years ago. As global warming gradually corrects our world to be in comfortable temperatures year round mankind must learn one thing. Don't fight against god with massive resource gathering disturbing our atmosphere.

Can't happen? Is that why this style of environment is said to have existed for dinosaurs?

I'm not predicting the future. I'm telling you how its going to be.
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Feb.19.2020
05:55AM EDT 
vertical line That's right. I am more intelligent than your god. You just confirmed it - again. You also confirmed that you need to address and prioritise your mental health issues in a way that doesn't include trolling a zen forum with batsh!t deerangement.
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Feb.19.2020
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vertical line By the way, your "realities message" is plural realities. Geddit? And harken oh herald. The only thing you spread is your own excreta.
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Feb.19.2020
06:09AM EDT 
vertical line However, it's so heavy with poison, it won't grow anything. So, you need to look at your diet.
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Feb.19.2020
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vertical line You create your attention and it is the very seat of samsara.

Didn't know you could grow trees and create bumblebees. Your so much smarter then the natural world.

Show me your other realities. You cannot. Only the viewpoints of man based on the attention, beliefs and concepts of reality.
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Feb.19.2020
02:34PM EDT 
vertical line If you care to read your posts you will discover that it is none other than yourself who is talking about "realities". There is nothing more to add. Find another forum to troll. Oops you already have.
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Feb.19.2020
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Feb.19.2020
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vertical line They call reality suchness in zen.

Again no zen with you.

Plus I know the attention better then you.
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Feb.20.2020
07:19AM EDT 
vertical line Suchness eh? Do they indeed? See how numberless are the different ways ignore your plight with deviations, diversions and distractions. Just how many forums are you trolling these days?
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Feb.20.2020
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vertical line You may harbour delusions of grandeur, believe yourself to be the only messiah of a message with an internet connection and a poor grasp of language, whereas in your concept of reality, you are nothing but the coffin in which it lies buried.
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Feb.20.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Suchness eh? Do they indeed? See how numberless are the different ways ignore your plight with deviations, diversions and distractions. Just how many forums are you trolling these days?"
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Suchness is commonplace literature of zen. You don't learn zen. You just post bad songs.
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Feb.20.2020
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vertical line I learned that you are merely one type of 100+ types of internet troll. That's all. I'm not going to engage with you further.
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With your imagination. Which has nothing to do with me. Its yours.

Read up on suchness. Its the nonverbal reality. Its not that reality does not exist its objects in reality don't exist. Which there is no reality object.

So even though you imagine reality don't exist you misconstrue the precepts of zen.

You can call it reality, suchness, god. Still don't change it nor can you it.

Go make trees o one smarter then the natural world.
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Feb.20.2020
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vertical line People want drugs to quiet the attention. Heroin is a good example. Such a relaxing rush it totally relaxes the attention. Giving them a false temporary state of bliss.

This bliss can be attained without drugs by letting the attention totally relax. This knowledge can help them overcome the addiction without the dumbing down effect of heroin.

So many addicted to drugs. Just wanting to kill the attention.
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