One day when Fa-yen Wen-i (885-958), one of the well known Chinese Ch'an masters, has ascended his seat. From the assembly, a monk came out and asked:
-What is one drop of water from the fount of Tsao-ch'i?
One day a Vinaya master asked a Zen master: -How should one practice Tao? The Zen master replied: -Eat when you are hungry, sleep when you are tired. The Vinaya master said: -Most people do that. The Zen master explained: -No, no, not so. When they eat, they do not want to just eat but think of this or that; when they go to sleep, they do not want to just sleep but think of this or that.
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